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To any trans activists reading this forum

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yetanothertranswoman · 01/04/2018 20:15

Fuck off fucking life up for those trans people trying to live our lives.

I heard about some of the stuff people like you got up to but I've had my eyes opened today. Seriously opened.

Stop talking about lady penises.
Stop saying you are a woman.
Stop demanding women be quiet when they raise concerns about what's happening.
Stop harassing woman online
Stop intimidating women trying to speak about their concerns.
Stop initimidating women trying to do a clothes swap.
Stop demanding access to female spaces and just saying "It will be ok"
Stop taking women's spaces as women's officers when you haven't got a fucking clue about life as a woman.

All you are fucking doing is making life more difficult for the rest of us and scaring the shit out of women.

Yes - trans people exist. Some of us have gender dysphoria which is bloody hard to live with. Some people just seem to think that putting on a skirt is enough to make you 'a woman'.

Are you capable of thinking about women and their concerns? All I've seen online is people saying it will be ok.

No - trans people are not the enemy. But there are some trans people and trans activists who scare the shit out of me with their demands and their behaviour.

I've tried to keep my head low and keep out of all this. But no more.

You don't speak for me and you don't speak for many trans people out there.

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goodthinking99 · 01/04/2018 20:36

Thanks OP for your thoughts. I was just musing the other day how much support I have for trans women and the fight for equality, dignity and safety, and how I'd be on the barricades with them if we didn't have the trans women = women mantra. It made me quite sad, what's wrong with being a trans woman? Isn't that in itself something to be celebrated and supported without diminishing women's rights? Why are we not uniting against male privilege/violence and using our differences as a strength?

AncientLights · 01/04/2018 20:36

Also want to thank OP for this. I have read such dreadful things that 'TERF's want: no human rights for trans people, for them to be killed ... I won't go on as you all know it. I have never heard this expressed by any woman - though you can never say never about human beings & there may be some total nut jobs out there - all I want us to have my substantial concerns listened to, not be scared to express my views and generally not feel as though I'm living in a totalitarian state. Much love to OP. Xx

BuckwheatBertha · 01/04/2018 20:35
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Popchyk · 01/04/2018 20:35

Well said yetanother.

mzcracker · 01/04/2018 20:34

Very well said Thanks

PositivelyPERF · 01/04/2018 20:34

Sorry, I meant yetanothertranswoman. Didn’t copy and paste without checking.

MrsWooster · 01/04/2018 20:32

Thank you op

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 01/04/2018 20:32
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PositivelyPERF · 01/04/2018 20:32

Thank you Just and can I just say I’m sorry that you are stuck in the middle of all of this. It must be very difficult for you to read the anger, aggression and threats from the TRAs/MRAs towards women and know that you may suffer as a result of being on the side of women. Just know that the vast majority of feminists on Mumsnet do not include you in the misogynistic people that we’re fighting for protection from. I’ve typed things in anger and would hate you to think that I’m against genuine transsexuals. I’ve read your posts and appreciate your support. 🌹

Fishfingersandwichnocheese · 01/04/2018 20:31

I’m with fanny

If gender is a social construct ...then it’s not real is it ? Just societal stereotypes.

I mean I get that people do not feel right as their biological sex and that’s (I think ?) what’s gender dysphoria is ?

But this whole ..I feel like a lady so I wear dresses thing ..makes no sense to me. The clothing doesn’t make you female. I’m not a man when I wear my trousers and work boots. I’m still female. Just in trousers.

I hope I’m making sense.

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 01/04/2018 20:31

Thank you. Flowers

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 01/04/2018 20:31

Thanks for sticking your head over the parapetFlowers

RawhideRingpiece · 01/04/2018 20:31

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DaisyDrip · 01/04/2018 20:29

Flowers Thank you!

PsychoPumpkin · 01/04/2018 20:29

Yes! Thank you for this wonderful post, OP!!

tygr · 01/04/2018 20:28

I want to share a link to this post to a political party I'm a member of who's fellow members ridiculed me when I referenced Mumsnet and what I said were valid women's concerns. I'm actually too scared to do it as the matter seems to have died down and I don't want to stir it up again. This is why having your voice heard is so important.

SecretsRsecrets · 01/04/2018 20:27

Thank you @yetanothertranswoman FlowersWine

Solidarity

fannyfelcher · 01/04/2018 20:26

I am all for people wearing whatever they want, shagging whomever they choose and generally living their own way as long as they do not hurt anybody else and it is all consenting. But I do still do a double take everytime I see "lady penis".

What I do not understand is - if gender is a social construct, ie, in the head......why do penises even need to be involved at all? wear a frock or Y fronts or whatever. But if you have a hose to drain, you go in the male toilets and if you have a lettuce, you go shake it in the female space. BIOLOGY= what your DNA says. Gender, nobody really is bothered.

Could you imagine if you took your car to be fixed and a mechanic tried to repair it with two bolts and no nuts because "one bolt is a male bolt and the other has decided it has lady parts now, because it chooses that-despite it being exactly the same".

No, no it is not.

Hypermice · 01/04/2018 20:25

Yup. With you on this one OP. Well said.

Belonger · 01/04/2018 20:25
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Etino · 01/04/2018 20:25
Flowers Thank you
Barbadosgirl · 01/04/2018 20:23

Awesome post, OP

pickledparsnip · 01/04/2018 20:23

Thank you Gin

gingergenius · 01/04/2018 20:23

Thanks and Gin and Wine xxx

concretesieve · 01/04/2018 20:23
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