Eddie Flipping Izzard

Incorrigblyplural - "Whatever, I don't think he's really deserving of the hate on this thread or, apparently, on another thread I've not seen."

Given that in another thread, the Lib Dem peer Brian Piddock was given plenty of hate just because he wanted to hear feminists' opinions on the self-ID debate, it's hardly surprising that Izzard got attacked.

That Brian Piddock thread really disillusioned me. So many posters complain that their voices are not being heard on this issue, then when a male politician comes along and says "I'm listening, what are your concerns?" he basically gets told to fuck off (not by all posters, thankfully).

At the moment my view is 1) I'm suspicious that this thread on the very day he snatches a seat on the NEC from one of Corbyn's bezzie mates may have rather more to do with that than to do with anything Izzard has ever done that may or may not be misogynistic.

People here have been discussing Izzard's shift from happily willing to admit that he's a man who wears dresses to "I have girl genetics" for quite a while. They've also been very critical of Corbyn. Not the droids you're looking for, mate.

Probably what Labour needs is a root and branch reform of its structures, Izzard or no Izzard. The party tries to be democratic and that's a good thing, but the whole thing is so labyrinthine and archaic that the various warring factions use the opacity to obscure the endless behind-the-scenes battles for dominance.

OMOV, while having the laudable aim of increasing member participation and influence, has probably made things worse. You've now got opaque union integration, power plays within the official party worker hierarchies, the PLP and member lobbies all using different structures to gain influence.

It all desperately needs streamlining but no power base is going to be willing to give up any of its power to achieve that. So it'll just carry on before with strange petty fiefdoms that nobody seems to be able to much about.

A lot of people think, politically, that he's a prat

metro.co.uk/2016/06/10/someone-shouted-shut-up-at-eddie-izzard-on-question-time-and-the-audience-loved-it-5935372/

I actually find this a worrying development - I think a lot of people who would question the "gender trumps biology" stuff will stop and listen to Eddie Izzard...and then might be persuaded. I hope I'm wrong.

He did once say 'do you know who I am.'

The poor sausage doesn't seem entirely clear who he is of late.

I've served him several times. He mostly gets his agent to speak for him. Doesn't really go in for conversation with little people. He did once say 'do you know who I am.'

I liked him when he wasn't quite so preachy. Will be interesting how things turn out for him and if he can prove himself. I don't know much about his political opinions apart from his position on the eu ref.

Terfragette69 calling someone "missus" could land you in hot water for misgendering, don't you know?

He says he shares genes with women? Well of course he does but he also shares 70% of his genes with a daffodil. I don't get the point.

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Carry on transing, 😂 I half expected a "ooher missus"....

I was discussing Carry On Transing with colleagues the other day, and it was interesting how many hadn't a clue about proposed changes to the law, self-ID etc. One commented: "That's why I've always liked Eddie Izzard. He just says he's a man who likes to wear dresses and make-up, and good on him for doing as he likes..." Oh, his little face when I gave him an update. Eddie's not being particularly public about his new identity, is he? Maybe he thinks it might lose him some support.

I don't believe the girls chased him around-its just a story and EI is a storyteller. I wish it were though. That girls felt confident enough to police our protected spaces.
Changing the subject, Izzard is promoting this loneliness is big problem that is killing people new project. Call me tinhat but I'm convinced behind this is a sinister agenda beyond the usual poor weak people needing help from us goodly rescuers. Not sure what it is -any ideas? It reminds me of the anti-bullying campaigns- at first I thought yes theres probably things you can do about it and we should do them. But over time it became obvious it was exaggerated and was producing hot house kids. I know people will queation this but I am interested if other people question making lonliness a political issue, At the very least we have better ways to spend the public purse.

He is only on the NEC of the Labour Party, a quite lowly position which all sorts of scrotes have held in the past.

Of course he's hoping to use this to increase his Labour profile and eventually try to progress within Labour, but I'd say that looks unlikely at the moment.

Neither Momentum nor the unions support him in Labour, and he is also caught in the cross-fire between women and the transgender lobby. Plus he wasn't actually elected properly; he was Fourth Choice Eddie. So the odds are very strongly stacked against him using this as a platform to progress.

But if he can steer his way out of this, it would demonstrate a very able politician.

Lana has a point. The masses will see Izzard as something other, because of the way he presents himself. It is politically incorrect to point out that his need to dress as his version of a woman in public will be a national joke by the silent majority and they will judge and then VOTE. It is still a fact that Joe Public will find him odd at the very least. You might find that wrong or disagree but it is what it is.
I know labour rules means he is now a member of the NEC but is he really the best person for the job?

whatever you sayAF

Aggh. Phone typos.

I hope that too plural He will be under huge scrutiny now and I would like it if he did the right thing. Time will tell.

Lana thete was absolutely no need got that comment. It is possible to be critical of transgenderism without being a fucking piece of shit about appearance. It makes you no different than a hate criminal.

Camper - agreed. But we have to take the people who stand.

A self-absorbed celebrity wouldn't be my first choice, but that's what we've got.

I was sad to see he'd moved on from his previous - a man who likes wearing make up' approach to 'I'm transgender now, guys!'

But up to him. In itself, it's his own business. Will have to see if/how it impacts on his approach to politics.