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Transactivists close down clothes swap

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DrRadFem · 01/04/2018 08:43

www.facebook.com/events/1192659824170075/permalink/1197709540331770/

I've been organising free clothes swaps in south east London since 2013. Attended mainly, but not exclusively, by women and their children, they are fun events that save money and the environment and strengthen and enrich the community.

The Birds Nest thebirdsnestpub.com/ have hosted many of our swaps in their back room. I am also a regular customer at the pub.

I had planned an event there next Friday 6th April. However, a local transactivist came on to the event page a few days ago and threatened to disrupt it (see attached screenshot).

I asked the managers to have a word with this man (also a regular customer) and to ban him from the event to ensure our safety. However, their response was to immediately cancel our event and to take no action on the man.

I'm extremely upset on a personal level but also furious that men can make violent threats against women, specifically in front of their children, yet simultaneously claim victim status.

This is how transactivism works

Transactivists close down clothes swap
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OvaHere · 01/04/2018 19:45

Imagine if all people who had differing opinions weren't allowed in Parliament at the same time.

PM questions would be a bit one sided.

In fact taking it to it's logical conclusion every single MP would have to be allocated their own day of the year to enter the building. Grin

TERFragetteCity · 01/04/2018 19:40

If violence had been incited, why hasn't LM gone to the police?

This is such utter bollocks.

hesterton · 01/04/2018 19:31

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Waddlelikeapenguin · 01/04/2018 18:18

Very glad you've taken this to the police but so so sorry that this has happened Flowers

Clothes swap ffs a clothes swap

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 01/04/2018 18:10

It’s a shame the press don’t pick up this kind of stuff. Threats of violence toward women and children at a community event.
Staggering really.

Mamaryllis · 01/04/2018 17:57

Is there anything we can do, Venice?

Juzza12 · 01/04/2018 17:49

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gingergenius · 01/04/2018 17:41

I've read all the comments there @DrRadFem and I'm horrified at the viciousness of their tirades. Interesting that Liv refers to Andi as he/man. So what the fuck is that all about? Does that not somewhat blow their ideology out of the water?

picklemepopcorn · 01/04/2018 16:28

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 01/04/2018 16:08

Argh Dr I'm so sorry. This kind of swap makes a huge difference to families, especially the ones living in poverty, it's wicked to take that opportunity away. But I understand in Deptford, the homeless, addicted and desperate have been requested to move over and make way too, so unsurprising children in poverty can either witness violence or get stuffed.

I'm very glad you have gone to the police and I admire your sense. I'd have been so tempted to hold the event anyway and either prove these threats are empty intimidation, or make sure it was captured on camera as these individuals kicked off in front of children at a community supporting event. That should make the national news and peak trans the UK overnight.

DaisyDrip · 01/04/2018 16:00

So now people struggling to clothe themselves or their children are being targeted by TRA simply because of who organised the event? Shocking!

With you all the way DrRadfem.

Angryresister · 01/04/2018 15:40

Is pus his name or a description?

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 01/04/2018 15:29

With you all the way Doc!

TERFragetteCity · 01/04/2018 14:35

I just think of all the poor trans women [LM] who can't afford clothes that could have benefited. Weird huh?

thornyhousewife · 01/04/2018 14:33

@DrRadFem sorry this has happened to you, but what a marvellous example of half-wit trans activists Grin

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/04/2018 14:30

@Angryresister, I think you mean this article: www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

It includes a long interview with Lucy Mcdonagh about the difficulties Goldsmith's students have caused various working-class women's projects in Deptford. Complete inability to grasp the reality of these women's lives and look for practical ways to help/support/empower them.

Venice, look after yourself. These people are nasty.

Natsku · 01/04/2018 14:00

Really hope the police are helpful.

RedToothBrush · 01/04/2018 13:37

Venice, I have PMed you. I hope you are ok, and do consider what I suggest. I'm not happy about it, but think its probably a wise move for now.

AreYouTerfEnough · 01/04/2018 13:12

It’s not really up to the police to judge is it? If someone is stalking, harassing and threatening then it’s a crime and the police are duty bound to act on it or you can make a complaint. What if something happened and the police had failed to act - this has happened before. Even if the police hate women they can’t pick and choose.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 01/04/2018 13:05

@DrRadFem Terrible this has happened to you.

I strongly urge you to contact Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service paladinservice.co.uk 020 3866 4107 [email protected] - Our unique team of accredited Independent Stalking Advocacy Caseworkers (ISACs) ensure that high risk victims of stalking are supported and that a coordinated community response is developed locally to keep victims and their children safe.

They will advise what evidence you need, how to approach the police plus give you the emotional and practical support you need. This is serious shit now as it's harassing, stalking and mobbing - it is illegal and you do need to protect yourself. Also care is needed for your well being as this kind of harassment cause PTSD.

The people doing this are committing criminal behaviour - you have the written evidence which is great. If you know the people's identity all the better- and take real good care

LangCleg · 01/04/2018 12:56

Yetanothertranswoman, I want to thank you for your stance on this.

Seconded.

LangCleg · 01/04/2018 12:56

Called 101 and they suggested I go to the station in person. I'll report back what they say

Good. Report any further harassment too. It's important that the police are able to build up a full picture.

Twunk · 01/04/2018 12:48

Just when you think you’ve reached the peak of peak trans - another larger peak appears in front of you. I hope the police are helpful (though I suspect not).

Janicejanet · 01/04/2018 12:44

Absolutely right to report. Keep us posted.

UpstartCrow · 01/04/2018 12:40

I'm glad you're reporting, keep an incident diary because this is targeted harassment and its not going to just go away. Flowers

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