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Womens Place Newcastle

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Ingsoc · 30/03/2018 18:05

New to mumsnet, terrified.

Anyone going?

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anonymouseagain · 25/05/2018 08:24

@HerFemaleness The woman at the end who spoke about her experiences working with a transwoman was I think more in line with my concerns.

Especially in the light of the belief held by some TRAs that trans women cannot rape: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3160709-Transgender-peadophile-demand-tampons-and-access-to-womens-prison#prettyPhoto[gallery75411729]/1/ How do you report rape by a bepenised person if that person can play the trans card to avoid accountability?

Pratchet · 25/05/2018 02:01

This is how they do it.

Women are so very reasonable. 'Of course we are inclusive! oh shit we no longer exist'

Pratchet · 25/05/2018 01:59

Pretty soon women will be making the effort and getting the childcare and driving miles, only to sit in a room to listen 50 per cent to transactivists

HerFemaleness · 25/05/2018 01:02

@anonymouseagain, I thought it was a bit off to present our concerns as solely down to a fear of stranger rape in the toilets. Most rapes are committed by men known to the survivor, but in my younger prettier days it was strangers who took liberties and went out of their way to make me feel uncomfortable by unwanted touching or unwelcome sexual behaviour.

. The woman at the end who spoke about her experiences working with a transwoman was I think more in line with my concerns.

HerFemaleness · 25/05/2018 00:53

God that was brilliant. I want to go again.

Yeah, the protest was a a damp squib, some half hearted chants and badly written signs. Honestly, if you're going to go to the trouble of writing a sign the least you could do is make it fucking legible.

I got to talk to some of you wonderful mumsnetters too.

anonymouseagain · 25/05/2018 00:40

@Pratchet They doing it from the inside. Dawn Furness?

Aye, but even she acknowledged the concerns about self-id in sports.

The point she made about "stranger danger" and how most rapists know the victim beforehand ignored the possibility that single-sex spaces might be why stranger rape is so rare. Rapists have the means (their penises) and the motive already; barring them from single-sex spaces where women are vulnerable makes it harder to rape a stranger so they have to rape someone they know?

robindeer · 24/05/2018 22:41

Sorry to have missed this. Were any of the speakers from the university? I studied there and can still recall some brilliant lectures on feminism and gender studies.

I'd also be interested in the feminist baby group in Heaton, when do they meet?

dorothymichaels · 24/05/2018 22:19

I was there and was so glad I went. I arrived alone and others who were not alone introduced themselves and were very friendly and welcoming. I was so impressed by the intelligent and articulate debate. There was no hatred there. I so hope a NE feminist group comes out of the meeting. Thank you to organisers.

TolchockLovelyInTheLitso · 24/05/2018 22:09

The protesters were quite sweet in a way. On the way in they were chanting "hey hey, ho ho, transphobia must go". There were more on the way out, and they were just hanging around looking fed up.

smithsinarazz · 24/05/2018 21:33

@Tackytriceratops - a) I'll keep you posted re baby group. Baby sensory is crap, isn't it? (Baby singing, 9.30 Thursday am. St James and Basil, fenham hall drive, is great, and I've met some kindred mums/nanas/grandas there.)
b) Yes re north-easterners. My ex-colleague Pete put it thus: "There are more bad men than bad women. So of course they shouldn't be let into the Ladies'."

Tackytriceratops · 24/05/2018 21:11

Protest led by NSU Women’s rep. A woman, can't see if there were any trans women protesting from twitter. Appears they were all actually in and taking part with the meeting.

One woman on twitter listing notable trans people who've achieved great things to try to distract the hashtag. I do find it amusing she included a trans man as the "first man to get pregnant." Um because they're actually female love.

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 24/05/2018 21:07

Ahh, okay I see.

Sounds like it went well then.

Tackytriceratops · 24/05/2018 21:06

Held the debate.

About 4 protestors 'being peaceful' outside apparently. One still making their sign.

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 24/05/2018 20:57

What have Northumbria uni done?

Terfing · 24/05/2018 20:56

What were the protestors saying/ doing?

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 24/05/2018 20:56

Really wanted to go but couldn't make it.

Just marking my place again and I'll be back later.

Tackytriceratops · 24/05/2018 20:53

Well done Northumbria uni.

So far any protesters on twitter don't appear to be trans them selves.

Pratchet · 24/05/2018 20:41

What is the MO? Every single specifically female organisation is targeted. Every one.

Pratchet · 24/05/2018 20:38

They doing it from the inside. Dawn Furness?

Writersblock2 · 24/05/2018 20:23

Wonderful event. Hope you have a fab time. We are winning on the hashtag so no worries.

DanaBarrett · 24/05/2018 19:47

There were four protesters, and one was still making their sign...

Melamin · 24/05/2018 19:36

Keep the tweets coming Grin

Pratchet · 24/05/2018 19:17

I think they know that as a PR tactic it no longer works. They will have something else in the pipeline. The twitter onslaught was one of them.

Tackytriceratops · 24/05/2018 19:09

Thanks for the twitter updates peeps.

BingBongSong · 24/05/2018 19:07

Looking forward to hearing how it goes!