Shon Fay smearing mumsnet on twitter.

Ach Why don’t they just fuck off? Any transphobic comment is deleted, the ones that left to stand tend to say things like ‘a man in a dress cannot decide to be a woman’.

So depressing - is that woman are defined by? Livestock, long hair and dresses?

Well, no advertising is bad advertising.

Keep driving gender critical people here by all means folks

This thread is what I love about MN

Thanks to this thread, I've noticed Shon has blocked me on twitter Apologies, to Shon, for not noticing before I don't think I've ever bothered interacting with Shon on Twitter, so perhaps Shon uses the LM blocklist.

Shon is quite a piece of work. Definitely not much respect for women going on there. (Unless they're tranwomen of course.)

@BeUpStanding

I am so bloody sick of being accused of being transphobic when I'm really fucking not

Yes, quite. Both transphobic & TERF are used so glibly they are meaningless

Mumsnet is where I think to come to talk about the bits of being a woman that relate to my biology. Period pains, infertility, child birth, prolapses, child care, discrimination at work etc etc etc

Absolutely. And the dismissal of MN as a place of screeching harpies with nothing constructive to say is just total misogyny.

The thing is, people do debate on here. People do give alternative viewpoints. And sometimes they are very valid; I especially like hearing from transwomen themselves.

But no one, no one has yet been able to give a definition of woman that isn't circular, nor give any sort of coherent reasoning behind the statement 'trans women are women'.

CircleSquareCircleSquare

Sorry, reply button didn't work or I don't know how to use it properly!

I first came to MN seven years ago when I was thinking about starting a family... and despite deciding not to have kids, I have stuck around because it's the best corner of the internet for women by a million miles. Everything is discussed here, absolutely everything, and all by women. It's brilliant. And I am so bloody proud that it is allowing us to have this debate, despite what I imagine is hideous pressure from TRAs.

Another for MNHQ.

BC.

It's really bad.

None of these threads would be allowed there, deleted within seconds... Censorship at its finest.

Hey Shon

and just amplify your own self love, like a randy budgie pecking a mirror.

Sorry, but this really made me chuckle!

What’s interesting is, Mumsnet is a really great place for reading about the everyday experiences of women.

Yes this is so true. Mumsnet is where I think to come to talk about the bits of being a woman that relate to my biology. Period pains, infertility, child birth, prolapses, child care, discrimination at work etc etc etc

*ante

Welcome Doro
It is refreshing here

Shon must bitterly regret that tweet about women enjoying their erasure.

It destroys their credibility forever.

Of course transactivists are upping the anti with regards to mumsnet. They can't bear it that women can form coherent, evidential arguments without insulting, threatening violence, rape, or doxxing people.

And every time they mention MN, more people come over to see what the fuss is about.

It's this never ending own goal syndrome that they seem to be locked in.

Why thanks, BeUp.

< fist bump >

Doro NM?

Women in failing to enjoy erasure shocker!

What’s interesting is, Mumsnet is a really great place for reading about the everyday experiences of women. The shit and abusive relationships so many of us deal with, the exhausting work of caring for children, the unequal split of domestic labour, the torment/joy of fertility and pregnancy and birth. The career issues around childcare, the problems with porn-addict men, on and on.

You’d think someone who deeply deeply felt like a woman would bother to give all that stuff some thought. Maybe even ask how our lives experiences might contribute to whatever views we hold on gender. But nope, we’re talking about gender wrong so we’re BAD and bullies.

I come from another parenting board.

They are censoring everything there, biology cannot be discussed, everything is flagged, deleted and users are being blocked and banned!

These are dangerous times.

Hope mumsnet stays this way, open to debate.

@AnyFucker I've noticed you posting for years and I just have to say I think I love you a little bit .

Ahem. Sorry for the lady feelz everyone.

Bovvered

I imagine MNHQ have been slogging their guts out moderating the trans threads. When so many people are screaming transphobic over nothing.
The one place where people are allowed to express their valid concerns, without being told to die in a fire.
Thank you Mumsnet