Shon Fay smearing mumsnet on twitter.

Are Shon and Jane sisters
They sure look alike

A place where women (many many women) exchange opinions, moderated by women

Yes I can see why some people aren't happy

Mirialis - how could I have forgotten the boy without a winkle? Sums it up really doesn't it.

And yes, the MRAs have always hated MN because women talking is just so ghastly - now replaced by TRAs who are doing their job so well.

Obviously, a few hundred years ago we'd have been put in a scold's bridle, or the ducking stool.

Now, we're just banned from twitter, and called TERFs. Oh - And punched for attending women's meetings. And sent rape and death threats. And losing jobs. Always the violence and control is just there, lurking, isn't it. The underlying threat of violence is always the way women have been kept in check.

I can imagine the notice MN will take of an insignificant little person like SF!

Mosquito's and swatting comes to mind.

Imagine saying to someone with a disability or mental health condition,
‘I’m sorry to tell you,
But you will never be like us’
Detailing why and then a winking face saying life’s too short.

FarFrom Shon is the person with the privilege here, having been born and remaining male. Shon has a platform. Shon is absolutely not oppressed in relation to women here. Shon is the oppressor.

Hence your analogy breaks down. You might as well say "people with disabilities oppress the non-disabled" because it would make about as much sense.

@AngryAttackKittens

Yes - I also think SF does eyeliner quite nicely.

Shame SF can't contribute to Style and Beauty - being banned and all that

What an utter tin hat 🎩

Actually I am enjoying my Erasure right now.

I've got a lovely glass of Chablis and DH has put The Innocence on the record player.

I might put Circus on next. I'm a rebel like that.

I might even dance a bit :-)

Ah, LastGirl, I guess if it seems too good to be true...

Anecdotally, isn't lavender supposed to discourage scorpions from infesting a dwelling if you strew some around? Apt, that.

Many MRAs don't like MN - women talking together by itself is threatening, but here they're actually sharing information like how to escape someone who is battering them, encouraging women to believe they don't have to stay in a hopeless, unhappy relationship or accept bad treatment, that the threats to take the children away from them are groundless and that there's a standard script for abusers and here's how to get legal advice... stuff like that really gets MRAs down. And now they're actually talking about women's rights and needs, and wanting to share that information and organise enough to get their voices actually allowed in the debate. Women being allowed to be heard when they're not on message? Oh the horror.

So MNHQ have had a whole lot of practice in spotting and moderating MRAs with groundless complaints. They do it with style. (Helen does it with gusts of lavender I noticed the other day. Now that's classy.)

Kittens....Shon wears extensions!!!

Enjoy Your Erasure

Lol. Whilst he arrives in his dress and girl penis to try and be us. Won't ever happen. Biology is the truth.

Maybe I should say something positive about Shon just to make things easier for the "but the wimminz are so evil and hateful!" people at MNHQ who're no doubt dealing with an onslaught of tantrums.

Shon, you have very nice hair. Which is not specifically a female trait, btw, and it's OK (a positive even imo) for men to have long hair, but still - good job you, excellent nutrition and/or use of hair products.

@mirialis

Goodness I bloody love Black Adder.

I suppose if SF wasn't banned we could ask if they thought BlackAdder was transphobic....

On that I think SF posted on here recently?

A fairly innocuous thread was started?

Was then taken down as SF was a PFB?

Went on twitter to complain about being banned from MN for something so obviously non controversial, failing to mention the reason was being a PFB for posts that SF failed to screenshot. The implication being the ban was transphobic?

Or am I confusing SF with someone else?

If we're doing Blackadder, then surely we should have this: "a boy without a winkle!"

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=x98cE4QCrlk

Who doesn't love Erasure? Well, arguably, perhaps someone who was so ashamed of being a gay man that they decided that pretending to be a woman would be easier.

^ I suppose Blackadder is 'transphobic' now

I doubt we'll see an invasion.

Maybe a few seagulls (fly over, shit and leave), but don't have the stamina for logical discourse.

That's why they like Twitter so much. Create a cosy bubble and enjoy the affirmation it provides.

If I'm wrong then tbh I still don't see the downside. Generally their arguments are good for enlightening people who haven't engaged in the debate as to why women are speaking up about it.

Equally as Datun said it encourages people over here. Not just the allies they expect, but people who are on the fence, curious or haven't considered MN as a place for debate.

Win, win really.

Lord Flashheart! Oh Rik, I love you. (RIP)

But, but, 2:15 in....

It's like the trans wedding in the Sun this week, thinking they're so modern and woke - don't these youngsters know this has all been done already in the 80's?

Lang I read that as Flasheart and it reminded me of the BlackAdder "Bob" episode:-)

Haha. My dad is a big fan of the George MacDonald Fraser Flashman novels and has nagged me into reading them all. There is one where Flashman is to blame for the Charge of the Light Brigade. He's hungover and does a huge fart which frightens his horse, his horse bolts and hey presto - famous British military blunder.

Ever since I read that description of Shon, that is what I think of. Posh fool, unencumbered by sense or conscience, causing havoc everywhere.