Shon Fay smearing mumsnet on twitter.

I don't know how anyone who is a woman would wish violence against other women. Or anyone in general!

Stop muddying the waters. Its isn't women that are making these threats is it on the whole is it. Don't you get it yet?

DarthArts - Really, I'd like to know from understand the reasoning behind the hate filled Tweets that have understandable upset a lot of people.

You could ask the people who tweeted those tweets? Although if you try that with Shon you'll get blocked rather than answered I expect.

Honestly though, I think it's just that we won't shut up and do as we're told, and there's nothing they can do about that. People like Shon thought they could swan into womanhood, and obviously be better at it than real women, and that the real women would fawn all over them and worship him as their leader. When that didn't happen, he started on the bullying.

Hop over to relationships, you'll see the same story over and over with women and their abusive partners.

@LeapingLlama

Ok - I've seen a lot of tweets, on a wide variety of subjects that could be described as hateful and I report them.

To answer your question though I need you to be more specific.

What hate filled tweets do you mean? I can't "reason" something I can't reference. I might consider them to be beyond "reason" and simply be hateful, inappropriate, offensive soundbites.

This is MN not twitter and if you want to make a point you need to be prepared to ditch emotive language and provide verifiable data and information.

Twitter is for men who cannot have rational factual discourse with women, it's the platform they use to shout down to and shut us up. Mumsnet is our safe space to discuss important topics relating to us as biological women. Anyone who comes here from Twitter should take care to notice that even as the oppressed group, we biological women do not resort to even a third of the vile insults that the misogynists on Twitter use. We don't need to, we know we're right. Science NOT feels!

Would that be Shon whose advice for school kids was 'suck dick and get tits early'?

Who four years ago was making a living blogging as a gay man in makeup. Who is still busy on GRNDR?

Shon 'loose headlock' Faye? Who finds street harrassment 'affirming'?

We see you and your womanphobic attacks Shon.

And we are Spartacus.

So much understanding for male anger, FFS.
But we talk about our biology and it is “literal violence” OH OK.

'to understand the reasoning behind the hate filled Tweets that have understandable upset a lot of people.'

There's never any point trying to understand narcissistic and abusive men. Why do they act like that? BECAUSE THEY CAN... for as long as they are allowed to by the rest of us.

Leaping - are you OK with women describing their own oppression? Because the Women's March isn't. According to them, women talking about their biology is transphobic now.

Yes, that's the Women's March - describing women talking as transphobia. You couldn't make it up.

Leaping - The reason behind the hate filled tweets, is they don't like women talking.

Are you OK with women talking?

'It's so sad to see so much anger'

Oh please. On the day four Belfast rapists were acquitted? When the survivors of rape by John Worboys have to CROWDFUND their own justice? When women's safety, rights, dignity and representation are under threat?

STAY ANGRY PEOPLE

*understandably. sorry!

DarthArts - Really, I'd like to know from understand the reasoning behind the hate filled Tweets that have understandable upset a lot of people.

@LeapingLlama

What is it you don't understand?

You say you want to "understand more" and obviously feel strongly enough about the issue to post so please feel free to elucidate your concerns/confusion/questions.

NoqontroI - Those Twitter comments are horrible, of course we should be standing up and voicing our opinions.
I don't know how anyone who is a woman would wish violence against other women. Or anyone in general!

It seems that there has been so much hate in the past that it has tainted how some individuals feel and in turn they're voicing their aggression. It's so sad to see so much anger and I hope things will change.

LeapingLama the 2nd rule of misogyny states that women saying no to men is a hate crime.
When we try to talk about male violence or women's rights we are told we are being hateful and that we hate men. This has been going on for generations. Men instructing women that if we just submit nicely to male dominance they will be nice in return. Somehow women never seem to be able to reach the level of nice necessary to have our human rights respected by men.
If we express anger over male violence we are called hateful. If we say no to me we are called hateful. It is exhausting. Trangender advocates are assaulting women in the street for disagreeing with them and here you are telling us that we are too harsh in what we say.
The unrealistic expectations put on women to be superhumanly kind courteous and polite in response to unrelenting abuse is mind boggling.

Don't hold your breath, LeapingLlama - misogynistic displays like that don't just go away.

How about the "I go into schools and educate young people - be slutty and get tits early" - are you with that? Or perhaps you think Shon will grow out of it. I mean Shon is only 30 - surely Shon will grow out of that soon, right?

From both sides: hate only fuels hate.

Should we just say 'never mind' then whilst there is an attempt to take over our spaces, along with the vile Twitter comments about how terfs should die, along with the graphic comments about what some trans women would like to really do to women? Is that ever ok? I have never seen that level of rage, hatefulness and threatened violence directed back from women to the trans community. The crime? That women simply want to debate issues that are going to potentially impact on us? Do we deserve the level of vitriol that we get for simply wanting to talk? I don't think so.

Terftastic - "Women need to stand up for women. Shon Faye says to women "enjoy your erasure".

That is not standing up for women in my book."

It isn't. I hope with time that her opinions change and the Tweets could become more positive and educational, instead of creating animosity to help people like myself understand more.