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The Sun transwedding headline

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HakunaDentata · 27/03/2018 12:44

How is it that I find myself agreeing with The Sun?!
Has it really come to this?

People being outraged at the headline with comments like 'why not just say man weds woman' and leave it at that' when obvsly the only reason for the headline & focus on this couple is the trans angle. Cue hurt tweets from happy couple saying 'I've always been a man/woman etc'.

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PsychoPumpkin · 27/03/2018 15:35

How can they deny their past. There are photographs of both of them when they lived as their birth sex (forever sex).

BoreOfWhabylon · 27/03/2018 15:26

The couple are described as 'Patrons of the transgender children's charity Mermaids'.

Hence the claim to never having been the sex they were assigned at birth.

AnotherQuoll · 27/03/2018 15:16

Weddings are expensive, so I'm sure the cash was helpful, as was whatever deal they struck with The Sun's photographers but of all papers, The Sun? Lying down with dogs, getting fleas etc

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/03/2018 14:44

psycho

Good point...

Yes i hope thay will be very happy together

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 27/03/2018 14:43

Spoke to a freind today who thinks there is not just hetro, homo or bi sexual

She says there is like 56 different ones now depending on how they ID

I did explain that i thought that there were in theory still only the three...

But the couple concerned are to all intends and purposes in a heterosexual relationship...i wonder if she saw the headline

PsychoPumpkin · 27/03/2018 14:42

The headline is atrocious! The story though is pretty much ‘two trans people get married’ which if we strip it down to (close your ears trans allies) biology, basically a heterosexual marriage.

My heterosexual marriage didn’t make headlines but I hope theirs is as happy as mine is!

LizzieSiddal · 27/03/2018 14:38

The headline is horrible but their response “I’ve always been a woman” is just not true.

I think the media now realise this is a “hot” topic and will print sensational stuff.
Unfortunately for them, a lot of Trans people are going to find out the general public will never agree with narrative “I’ve always been.....”

Datun · 27/03/2018 14:01

I disagree profoundly with the ideology that says two people have always been the opposite sex.

Them getting married doesn't really maximise or minimise that viewpoint.

I can be glad they're happy and, at the same time, irritated that they uphold a damaging ideology.

But I agree it's a click bait article that sensationalises something that not only is deadly serious, but is almost guaranteed to cause further division.

OvaHere · 27/03/2018 13:59

They both state that they were never their born sex....

Which is a shift in narrative from this article www.ft.com/content/5af4d0e0-a747-11e6-8b69-02899e8bd9d1
where Hannah talks quite comfortably about the realities of accepting yourself as a transgender woman and privilege in her previous life as white male in the army.

This shows me how much the the narrative has been shifted between 2016 and now from it's okay to live your life as transgendered to we were never our birth sex in the first place.

They seem like a happy couple though and I wish them a great life together. If they invited The Sun to their wedding then unfortunately the daft headline was always going to be part of the deal. It's what The Sun do.

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HakunaDentata · 27/03/2018 13:42

Thanks for the snide comment Catspaws but I only said I agreed with the words in red. Nice to see transquisition on MN though.

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BlackeyedSusan · 27/03/2018 13:37

It is unusual as they have both transitioned, hence it being in the papers. Newspapers print things that will sell papers, and use headlines that will promote sales.

As for the couple, they look happy and I wish them well.

Mumsnut · 27/03/2018 13:34

Can't get my knickers in a knot about this. I wish them well.

53rdWay · 27/03/2018 13:33

tbh I’m only interested in strangers’ weddings when they end up on AIBU. But glad these two are happy, hope the Sun was only there by invitation.

Whinberry · 27/03/2018 13:30

Couple get married. I wish them well in their married life and would advise them to stay away from The Sun.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 27/03/2018 13:29

Man marries woman shocker

Catspaws · 27/03/2018 13:28

I think that if you're horrified by your bedfellows on this issue, it might be time to have a good hard look at yourself and wonder why you're now on the same side...

CapnHaddock · 27/03/2018 13:27

I think they were invited. Honestly, what did they expect? The only reason anyone is interested in them is because they've transitioned. Otherwise they're a bog standard boring couple, albeit ones who seem to have a nebulous grip on reality.

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0phelia · 27/03/2018 13:26

I think the whole "just two people getting on in life" is a bit redundant seeing as they invited reporters to their wedding.

The whole trans ideology is about making a spectacle of "normal"

Man weds woman. Too dull. Both trans people- let's blow firehorns! They are not the first Transgender couple (both trans) to get married.

In my town, two trans people for married but they both transwomen. They didn't expect a spectacle of it even though it was far more unusual than this pair.

2rebecca · 27/03/2018 13:24

Agree whether or not it's sensationalist depends on how the Sun got their story, the Sun never came to my wedding. If the couple approached the Sun wanting publicity for their unusual wedding then they can't be surprised when the unusualness was focused on. If a guest just sold pictures to the Sun without their consent then they have cause to complain.

HakunaDentata · 27/03/2018 13:24

Backingvocals I think they did give them an exclusive but were then shocked to see the headline. How naive can you be.

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HakunaDentata · 27/03/2018 13:23

I didn't post this because I like it (I don't). I don't understand why it would be a freak show to admit to the fact you were born a man or a woman who later transitioned?
Admittedly The Sun is the worst rag in the world to make this sort of point.

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