FFS. Flagged at work for gender critical views

Oh my God Sarah
"I was contacted by the Police at work (the police had got my details from MNHQ) regarding a MN post I started. I'd had a transwoman come for a job interview in an incredibly inappropriate outfit and started a thread. The Police deemed it 'not transphobic' in anyway but it was frightening."

WTAF? This is batshit beyond belief. If the TRAs think they can shut us up they are even more fucking deluded than just thinking that they can make us believe that a man can 'become' a woman.

Lurking TRAs - WE ARE NOT SHUTTING UP!

Super scary and quite frankly totally unacceptable! Why are we taking this lying down? Unless I'm putting something illegal on my Facebook page or Twitter what the hell does it have to do with anyone else? This is an infringement of civil liberties. When a TRA writes about killing or raping terf is that getting brought up with their employers or the police??

I’m self employed, but just wondering. If I were to state something in a tweet like ‘transwomen are men’ (in a logical context of course, not just randomly) – does that make me at risk of being considered transphobic under the law? I know that some people consider that a transphobic statement, but is it “bad” enough to get you into prosecuted or accused of bringing your employer into disrepute?

How long will be be before they shut down MN?

OP this news makes my PISS BOIL.

We have GOT to stand up to this: all of us, in solidarity. They can't track/stalk/harass/sack ALL of us.

I've just started a new campaign. I can only suggest that you join it.

Safety in numbers, support, etc.

PM me for an invite xxx

Those lurking can and probably do cross reference posts here, on twitter, FB and where ever else the public debate is happening on GRA stuff. It might seem like an onerous task to some but its so very easy to join the dots and build up a picture of who someone is, where they live, work, friends, family - it's often on linked accounts that most of your personal information can be found so do be aware when you interact with others, if their SM a/c isn't locked down, that's where something identifiable can be picked up.

Those who are posting publicly and are taking on the flack for it, I admire immensely. I can't make myself known for reasons with my employment but I'd happily do so if my livelihood was guaranteed not to be impacted.and the infuriating thing is, there no other political debate I've ever been part of where that's been a concern for me & it pisses me off greatly.

And those smug bastards on twitter ask you oh so innocently why women don't post in their own name?

How are you contravening any policies? This doesn't actually make sense. If all you have done is circulate a few articles published in mainstream newspapers about a potential (and very significant) law change it doesn't make you a high risk employee.

Thinking

That's bloody awful

This is what to do.

-Create a new twitter account with a fake name and new email address
-Protect your existing account so that only your followers can see your tweets
-Tweet your followers that you are starting a new account and can they follow there. Could be an idea to tell them why
-Give it a week, then delete your exising account.

There is a chance that whoever the scumbag who dobbed you in will be an existing folllower, but you can screen your new followers as they follow you and block any who are questionable.

It's fucking ridiciculous that we should have to do this.

In the current climate, Shon's choice of tweet may have more significance...

Ellen "Having a critical thought?"

yes, frankly. If you put something on social media that goes against whatever companies are doing at the moment, it can cause issues.

we have a bunch of loos that went unisex - there's always a long queue for the one that remains a women's but I don't think anyone has complained because we are nervous to.

Shon is always lurking on Mumsnet.

Do please be aware that widely read & retweeted twitter accounts such as Shon Faye and Helen from Mermaids have been directing focus to MN a great deal recently...

So sorry to hear this. All I can say is that as someone who does not depend on anyone else for my income, I am trying to get the message out there as much as I can.

This is terrible. TBH, when hiring, I specifically don't stalk people on social media. I think that things I find there (eg. having children, dangerous hobbies, poor taste in music or whatever) could bias me, and I should be hiring based on that person's professional skills, not their love of beer or holidays in Hawaii. I'm not hiring anyone public facing, so perhaps that's a reason to check that I could justify to myself.

I've apparently been flagged as 'high risk'

'High risk' of what? Having a critical thought?

pombal "I know you can’t say too much, just trying to understand what they think might happen?"

at worst, she could lose her job.

There is a vast number of keyboard warriors with a lot of time and expertise. There are deliberate and orchestrated attacks on people, not just those in the public-eye.

I blame the feminists. If it wasn't for them, women wouldn't have to worry about this work mullarkey in the first place

You have been flagged as high risk for what exactly?
I don’t understand.

There’s a risk you offend a service user? Is that the problem.

I know you can’t say too much, just trying to understand what they think might happen?

i spent 4 years in the exec team of a large corporation and we routinely checked social media - admittedly mostly Facebook where people were daft enough to whinge about the business itself and have publicly accessible profiles. it's just what happens. rightly or wrongly!

Most employers check staff social media – you now work for them and can reflect poorly on the company.

If you are negative in your posts no matter how ‘carefully worded’ they are, then people have a right to take offence - its the internet and you are putting things out there, of course someone will comment. Just make your twitter feed private.