We need a TRA support group

Best to just mute the conversation or protect your tweets for a bit when that happens, Van Gogh.

I made one particular Tweet and they came at me like iron filings on magnet, it was tiring batting them all away and after a couple of days of it I felt like I was some kind of kkk member or something - I've never been on this 'side' before and it's painful.

So yes, we need a nice pink woman cave to retreat to for a while.

Bad dreams here too, though mainly one night after a particularly horrible attack. Wish I could meet for coffee, but I’m currently outside the U.K.

Perhaps we could set up real life meeting groups. Just a coffee and a moan would be enough for me tbh.

Some of the posters here did a demo in Manchester, yesterday I think, and that’s just awesome.

I also wonder if my twitterings are worth the stress as I only joined for gc things and hence have created a little echo chamber mainly. Still I guess retweeting and clicking likes and aiding in the odd argument with tras must help.

I also wish we had real life groups who could meet up.

I started contributing to a self id thread on a site I frequent but backed away when those who clearly had given the matter no more than 30 seconds' thought started throwing around the usual vile TRA buzzwords. However someone way more eloquent and tenacious than me is doing a fantastic job of patiently explaining the facts and debunking the propaganda and scales are definitely starting to fall from eyes

I don't think you need them to support you politically. MN can do that.

You need them to support you emotionally and personally, so you reconnect with nice men. Most men really are nice!

Dh isn’t interested in politics or societal change etc. Ds is studying politics, philosophy and economics at university and a member of the Labour Party, although more centre than left. He just rolls his eyes when I mention casual sexism, feminist concerns etc.

Can you ask DH and DSs to support you? Explain that your rational fear of the current situation is making things hard for you. Ask if they can work harder at the connection for a while.

I’m autistic and have anxiety and depression. I’ve been struggling to process what’s going on and just how the TRAs are managing to get away with all this violence. I’m particularly disturbed by the twitter takeover. I’m not on twitter and have no plans to join in light of recent events.

I have been having bad dreams about gender stuff and feel angry at men in general now. Sometimes, I can barely speak to my husband and two sons as I feel so far removed from them in a way and wonder if they feel this hatred towards women and are just tolerating me. I have nobody to talk to in real life.

On a lighter note, one of my dreams involved me in the supermarket with dh when we passed by an area selling pads for trans women and I told dh they were ‘manstrual pads’ and he thought it was crazy 😂

Some gems including someone who really believes women cannot tell the difference between men who say they're women and women. That it's "gaslighting" of me to suggest anyone can tell the difference.

Sorry that we have working eyeballs, mate. I mean, really, is he trying to convince you or himself? There are very few people whose sex can't be identified at a glance, and even in those cases a closer look will usually be enough to figure it out.

@days of - I'm the same, no friends to talk this through with, I live with males, who are aware, but don't quite see things the same way. I work with men, who expressed shock when I mentioned Self ID, but they're not really interested. I tried to highlight the issue on FB to resounding silence. I think I may have been blocked by at least one person.

I looked for feminist groups to join about 2 years ago thinking there would be a few choices as I live near a large University city. Though there were a number listed, all appeared inactive. It's only recently that I've realised why this may be.

I'm a bit confused about twitter. I set up an alt identity, so I could engage more freely. But that one doesn't connect to anyone or anything except trans related stuff- so it doesn't really do anything because it isn't spreading awareness outside the box.

The towels are warm and fluffy from the radiator, by the way, and the kettle's on for hot chocolate with marshmallows on. Everyone welcome after a hard day on the TRA face.

Have no females to talk to about this in RL, sister not getting it and may think I am a total bigot ...would like to join a group, did join Fawcett Society but a bit disappointed in them. Only found out late last year that I am a feminist! This from being made aware by Mumsnet. Getting a bit depressed by it all, would like to meet up with others, drink wine and totally vent

Hive mind @TERFragetteCity

I follow women's art and vita sackville west's gardening tweets to break up the crazy

Are you me? Shit.

At the beginning of 2018, I'd only ever read Mumsnet, as a source of information and something to read to be honest.
Since February I think it was, I've now joined Mumsnet, made 3 contributions to political campaigns, attended a feminist meeting and got a Twitter account. I'm so useless at Twitter, it's sad. I still don't get how it works and really need the time to sit down and look at some tutorials. There is a horrendous amount of nasty crap there and I do wonder what the point is of engaging with some people. As has been said, I take some comfort when I speak to others that Twitter views really don't seem to reflect what most people think.

I find I can only do a few hours on it now and then before I need to go and look at pictures of dogs or something else to calm me down.

I’ve decided to give myself weekends off from posting/retweeting anything GC. I also try to fill my feed with nice stuff as I don’t want people to think I’m only there for that one thing.

Interesting about your RL friends TerfragetteCity. I’ve noticed the same. I hope you’re right. I guess the fact they haven’t unfollowed me at least means they accept I have the right to choose.

I follow women's art and vita sackville west's gardening tweets to break up the crazy.

I'm so worried about young women who are caught up in this. I'm a member of a women's online group which is hugely dominated by a TRA. He used to be very close with a young woman in the group and then I realised I haven't seen her posting selfies for a while. She's left the group and I just wonder what happened to her :(

Can recommend following Celeste Barber and funny cat/dog Twitters just to break up the endless stream of nonsense.

I’ll take a lemon scented towel, how naice

I got a bit overwhelmed with twitter over the weekend. I only joined to support GC voices but it is a complete cesspit about 85% of the time. I find I can only do a few hours on it now and then before I need to go and look at pictures of dogs or something else to calm me down. Serious hats off and brava to those women who are on there all the time speaking up about this nonsense

I thought you meant that for many TRAs their education had so clearly failed them that they would need assistance to deal with the world around them.