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We need a TRA support group

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0phelia · 25/03/2018 21:12

I have delved into the dark underbelly of Twitter and so have had the "privilege" to come across some proper trans activists.

Some gems including someone who really believes women cannot tell the difference between men who say they're women and women. That it's "gaslighting" of me to suggest anyone can tell the difference.

And another tra lecturing me how transmen have the exact same physiological structure as men (because taking hormones) so he really cannot understand how transwomen should be excluded from women's sport. "Arm/leg lengths differ between people I have short legs = therefore all men should be included with women in sport" because artificial hormones.

Other gems... I have cis privilege because I think transwomen with penises should be seen as a type of Man... (let's just say I reject cis anyway and my years living as a prostitute is it really seen as a privilege?)

I'm not sure what sort of social media conversations you are all having but it is horrible being a GC feminist out there!

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MsMcWoodle · 31/03/2018 16:04

Good lord! It's insane out there.
Came in to tell you all that Twitter seems to be picking us off one by one.
I do need moist towelette.

IntelligentYetIndecisive · 31/03/2018 15:35

TRA gets a free clothes swapping event at a pub cancelled because the organiser is Venice Allan.

Facebook link

ANdi Pus and his handmaiden Liv Wynter have even weighed in on the comments.

Check his picture.......

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picklemepopcorn · 31/03/2018 08:29

Hey, that's a good idea, we could add making tinfoil hats to our hospitality duties, beupstanding.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 31/03/2018 07:44

Twitter thinks I'm a robot, and wants me to confirm my phone number but it won't accept it when I put it in. This is after a week of being very active with #ManFriday etc. Shall I fashion my tin hat now?

picklemepopcorn · 31/03/2018 07:36

It is shocking to feel the need to protect your identity, name change, and generally take precautions to stay safe. Simply because you assert that women are women.

Keep popping in here for some tlc. And perhaps some Wine.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/03/2018 19:26

Brew Cake

AncientLights · 30/03/2018 19:05

Hi everyone. I have only just joined MN this evening, after a couple of horrendous weeks immersing myself in this car crash. I'm on Gransnet and an MN'er posted about the petition and the guides disaster-waiting-to-happen so that led me here. I have at times been very depressed about it, feeling quite at sea. I'm planning on submitting something written to Brian Paddock - I have no idea if he will accept that but worth a try. I think he, like most, think this about post-op trans people being treated badly by society. Far from the truth as we all know. I'm hoping we can educate him. But I am also confused by the sheer amount of stuff I could cover and need to drill down into what's important to me and what might not get covered by those who go to meet up with him. Though it look as though Jenny Jones is amenable.

I have DM'd a few people in my area who want to meet up. However, I am already wondering 'what if they're TRAs in disguise and will put the boot in?' I am so angry that I have to think like that in 21st century Britain.

Anyway, very glad to have your company.

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0phelia · 29/03/2018 22:02

Oh they do so love to twist everything out of perspective. It's how they thrive....

Don't name change over it.

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0phelia · 29/03/2018 21:29

Beupstanding Love Grayson!

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0phelia · 29/03/2018 21:28

Sorry back story this Lib Dems person was out there bragging about filling in the "female" box on their medical forms and someone else pointed out that might cause them harm... it wasn't a random message.

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0phelia · 29/03/2018 21:23

I am female I am female I am female

I CBA replying "no you're a Transwoman. you need particular medical needs different to women" who can bother...

But in such high profile positions it's so depressing!

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0phelia · 29/03/2018 21:21

Alicia thanks I'll add those.

I hopped on briefly this afternoon and came across a TRA fronting the Lib-Dems LGBT group with this gem

We need a TRA support group
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picklemepopcorn · 28/03/2018 08:41

He's fabulous, isn't he!
And yes, we can chat as we fluff as we fold!

Gotta go, my actual coalface is calling. My deep thinking will have to wait.

BeUpStanding · 28/03/2018 08:33

The Descent of Man is the book. And here's the lovely Grayson talking masculinity:

BeUpStanding · 28/03/2018 08:26

Pickle We can chat while folding towels together Grin.

I think you're completely right. There's a real crisis of masculinity, and it is hurting men as well as women. The fabulous Grayson Perry talks a lot about it. I've not read his book about it but prompted by this I think I'll look it up

picklemepopcorn · 28/03/2018 08:23

Damn, beupstanding. While I was tapping out my lengthy post, you were nicking my job...

picklemepopcorn · 28/03/2018 08:22

I'm not currently going out on the coalface of Twitter very effectively. I do a bit on FB, and have raised awareness among friends.

I'll work hard here in the woman cave, passing out the hot chocolate gin and fluffing up the towels so you peeps can come in for a bit of peace from the storm.

I had a bit of a deep think last night, prompted by a ballet I was watching. About 25 years ago, I reckon the stigma about being a single parent reduced hugely. Single and divorced mums were bringing up their children very successfully. Women were working. Lesbian couples started to be more visible, and lesbian couples were having babies. Women started leaving their marriages for lesbian relationships.
Men began to be afraid of becoming unnecessary in a way they hadn't feared before. They weren't needed to procreate, to earn, or to parent. They had lost control of us, and they need us more than we need them. I think that is why there has been such a surge in misogyny in recent years.

Sorry if everyone else already knew that- I've not read feminist theory, I'm picking things up as I go.

Ereshkigal · 28/03/2018 08:17

Twitter is stressful, but it does make you sharpen up your arguments. Also you will come across people who are more unintelligent and unthinking than you may come across in your real life. People who think biological sex isn't real, people who think if you take male hormones you will actually grow a penis. Breathtaking misogynists. Men who, while they don't believe TIMs are women, will derail with NAMALT and push their MRA agenda rather than concede you deserve female spaces and services.

BeUpStanding · 28/03/2018 08:10

I've not yet joined Twitter... I want to but keep putting it off, as I'm not sure how I'll handle any abuse. I have been talking lots about self-ID with friends and colleagues though, and have peak-transed at least a dozen people.

For those brave souls out there doing hand-to-hand combat in the Twitter streets, I'm in here plumping pillows and restocking the bar for you. Shoulder rub anyone?

AliciaSJ · 28/03/2018 02:38

Hi All
A good place to start on twitter is
A Womans Place - not sure of @ but search the name and you will find them. They have published 5 demands which are very simple but surpringly ignored by all.the mainstream parties who have all subscribed to the TAs mantra
'Transwomen are Women' This is the main problem, as nobody in power will challenge this, all in awe of the #transcult
They cannot or will not answer the question
'What is a woman' and the TAs go apoplectic if you ask them!
They organise meetings around the country too.
If you search the following hashtags you should find a good few rad-fems and g-c women and men to engage with

#LabourLosingWomen
#peaktrans
#Transcult
#self-id

Sorry if I have told you stuff you already know!

Alicia

AreYouTerfEnough · 28/03/2018 02:15

You need brain bleach after reading those TRA tweets and blogs. Makes me laugh really, hearing them go on about ‘literal violence’ then they issue death threats and write stuff only an evil person would be proud of. They have minds like sewers. I wonder what their families would think of them if they knew.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 28/03/2018 00:47

Yes I have had dreams about it too, seeing men with their camel toe prop thing telling me they're women!

@AreYouTerfEnough I must admit I don't know I'd cope with that in terms of family. Im single and childfree and really struggling with the one friend who believes in self ID.

There aren't many issues where the political becomes personal but this is one.

Those in the dark underbelly of Twitter - I'm impressed that you can cope but I think the best you can hope for is to raise awareness, the TRAs aren't going to change their lines of attack.