The Deptford People Project and the impact of self-ID and transactivism on working class women

Lucy was also interviewed by the Guardian www.facebook.com/DRradfem/posts/2113904688828464

I went to the transgender debate in the House of Commons last week and was lucky to sit next to some mumsnetters waves and want to thank you all for your ferocious defence of women's rights. After in the pub I met the Deptford project women. They were so inspiring! Working class women and children hardly ever get heard.

I love everything Lucy has to say in that interview. Particularly the bits about the gentrification of marginalisation.

It took a Canadian feminist to actually bother to get hold of Lucy and ask her follow up questions about a tweet thread that went viral. Not a jot of any interest from any UK publication. Says it all, really, doesn't it?

Lucy is an IRL friend of mine. There are other women in Deptford who are also waking up. We are on the Pomo frontline here in Lewisham

May I ask what happened after Lilly applied to work at the refuge? Was the application rejected? Or did Lilly get involved in some other way?

Liam Madigan's secret facebook group:

I think I've said this before, but I volunteer at a food bank housed in a drop-in centre that sounds a bit like the Deptford project. Just trying to provide at least a base level of help to a wide variety of people whose services have been taken away incrementally during austerity. Everything Lucy says in this interview strikes a chord with me. Thank the lord where I am is nowhere near a pomo-ridden university with outreach programmes who would actively obstruct the (limited) help we're able to offer. Particularly for the women, whose difficulties and concerns are all about things which impact women and not trans-identified males.

Lucy McDonagh is so impressive.

I’m clearly in danger of becoming a regular though as I spotted an error: IIRR Lilly Madigan did not carry out bullying as alleged here.

She cuts straight through all the bullshit.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

gendertrender.wordpress.com/category/sports/page/2/

sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

translesbianpositivity.tumblr.com/post/170520246550/the-tip-of-the-iceberg-please-add-to-this-list

I added a few other links in too. Just a little light reading for you Hope this helps!

There is a thread on here in the feminist chat section called Break it down for me. I'll just check and see if I can find the link...

Also we have some TW/TMs that post here as well, so you can see their opinions too.

Welcome and you'll need it!

Oh and watch for Datun's posts, her's are always very clear and informative.

this is all a bit new to me - so firstly - thanks, i saw a lot of threads in feminsism section and just igored because i find it hard to get past the acronyms and had no idea what this was about.

I am also concious that in this section partcularly there are goady people, trolls etc and i have some genuine basic questions whih i dont want to be seen as these things.

i have a few questions

1. has anyone asked the trans community their thoughts or are the labour party men just doing what they think is right?
2. why not have a 3rd trans option when it comed to official ientity - and then the labour party can have trans branch officers and the trans community could also benefit from positive discrimination.
3. break it own for me - the govt are redefining what a woman is - is that right? in law? what rights are we losing

i am totally honestly looking for opinion

Thanks for posting the link OP!

This raises a question that's been worrying me. Is Jennifer James ok? I haven't seen anything posted about her for a while, and I know she was on the receiving end of some horrible abuse.

for her if she's still about on MN.