Really, MNHQ?

I can't even get excited about trans organisations going into schools.

LGB organisations going into schools don't make pupils catch the gay. Trans orgs going into schools don't make people catch the trans.

Transpeople are still on here, however. And welcome.

Jon66 - trans organisations were never on Mumsnet - no point - they went straight for our schools.

My god there's a dead horse outside that's still been less flogged than this subject

This is clearly offensive to horses, and literal violence, and inciting violence. And just horsephobic in general.

I shall be reporting to the West Yorks Police forthwith.

And now I am going to be in trouble for referring to some of my school peers as barbie dolls. But they bloody were, and they bullied me mercilessly so ... as Catherine Tate said....

Ragusa I'm in total agreement with you. But i think any trans people or organisations on here are probably long gone due to the non inclusive views.

@Regularhuey, @SomeRandomBird, @Palavra oh! Oh! all is not lost on the feminism boards. This gives me hope - you know, of a diversity of views.

No, I don't want everyone to think like me, @thebewilderness but I do want to be able to participate in a discussion without feeling the way I did at school when I had views and a look that differed from my uber-fem barbie doll peers - e.g., snidely ridiculed and then closed down.

My god there's a dead horse outside that's still been less flogged than this subject

Calm down.

Intersex or trans anyone?

Seriously I am gender critical and I think this question is needed.

Lidl, like the rest of the world (bar Mumsnet) have acknowledged the existence of intersex and non binary people.

Shall we all move on now?

I know right? An Aldi survey, urghhh.

Who cares. It’s a survey not an erosion of women’s rights. If someone is trans then they can tick that, if they are intersex they can tick that if they so happen to be Samoan and identify as fa'afafine they can tick that.

That should be expectations.

Personally I think the likes of LM are silly, inflammatory and illogical. But I hate the anti-trans stuff on here. Seems like there's no place on here for people like me. Yeah, I could stop reading but why should I feel I have to?

Conversely, why do you think everyone else should change their world view to make you comfy here? Or do you just like to complain about people failing to live up to your unrealistic exectations and so this is the perfect place for you?

There's nothing wrong there.

I'm sure you'll find yourself to be afeared though OP. Why waste an opportunity to whip up hate fuelled fear mongering?

Enby non binary I'm in a permanent state of lately with all these bizarre terms.

I am sure the other must be for the Enby Non Binary because everyone know that transgenders are whatever they say they are. Under penalty of mob harassment.

How would 'prefer not to say' be all-inclusive exactly?
A person may consider themselves neither male nor female. They may be biologically intersex. And they may prefer to shout it from the rooftops. Why should they have to pretend they prefer not to say??

I was going to say, at least they didn't go with gender.

I like 'other' - I may start ticking the other box.

'Other, please specify' would be even better - then I can make up my own gender. Female is just so boring now.

@frsshlylaidterf aggressive? Do you mean because I swore in an unladylike manner??

That is kind of the whole point. I feel totally unwelcome on this board and I am just as much as a feminist as you are.

Personally I think the likes of LM are silly, inflammatory and illogical. But I hate the anti-trans stuff on here. Seems like there's no place on here for people like me. Yeah, I could stop reading but why should I feel I have to?

We should focus on fighting the battles which encroach on woman only territory or child safeguarding and leave stuff like this alone

Agree with this

Hmm, doesn't really bother me. As you could be male,female, or a transperson and prefer to put that instead.
Now if they'd have said "cis" or " non cis" woman, I'd have got the rage and wanted to fling my phone across the room
(Not to mention wanting to put myself on my first ever boycott and then where would I go for my yummy pastries?!)

Remember the Jedi answer to religion in the census. We are going down that road.

In 2001 there was a campaign to encourage people to answer the question with Jedi, and around 330,000 did so. But the force is apparently on the wane by 2011 with only 176,632 describing themselves as Jedi Knights

It's better than the MN one in that it doesn't mention gender.