How to make love to a trans woman

I have read it is conveniently triggering for them, or just too much because they are both on hormones / going through something life altering. There are some who do though.

LOL at 'triggering'. So it's just too painful to be reminded that they are not real women. I am a fat person who will only date thin people because otherwise it's super-triggering for me because it reminds me that I too am fat.

Suspect it has more to do with how they are actually heterosexual men and despite shouting from the rooftops about being 'real women' they actually don't want to have sex with a fellow 'real woman'.

Genuine question: Do transwomen who identify as lesbian (ie ‘men who still want to have sex with women’) accept transwomen as partners then?

I have read it is conveniently triggering for them, or just too much because they are both on hormones / going through something life altering. There are some who do though.

Transgender females are emotionally stable. Due to the fact that they have to stand against social discrimination, stereotypes, and bigotry, they cannot afford to be emotionally unstable.

BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA......oh christ they're serious.

@vesuvia Thanks for the reference. That study was interesting, and it's just nice to get a reply with actual science.

"some data indicate that 16-androstene pheromones, in particular androstadienone, play a beneficial role in women’s mood, focus and sexual response, and perhaps also in mate selection"

That's a very weak conclusion, and it's about as strong a statement as can be made on the effectiveness of pheromones in humans. The reason is in your quote:

"no functioning vomeronasal organ, which processes pheromone signals in animals"

Many animals have strong pheromone responses with substantial control over behaviour. Humans don't, but smell does play a part in mood and attraction.

The reasons straight blokes don't fancy transvestites and generally are not attracted to transexuals is about a lot more than just smell.

@Datun.
"Of course it doesn't. However it does represent all the transwomen who are demanding they be allowed to violate women spaces and breach their boundaries."

I agree. It's like a manifesto for some of the oddballs who have appropriated the term trans.

Let's not talk as if this website represents all trans people.

Of course it doesn't. However it does represent all the transwomen who are demanding they be allowed to violate women spaces and breach their boundaries.

Pfft. Yeah. Enjoy her honeymoon fresh new vagina but make sure she’s rinsed it recently as it’s made of colon so might whiff a bit.

That's one of the funniest things I've read for ages. Even the comments from the TIMS are calling it bollocks.

donquixotedelamancha wrote - "There is no evidence of pheromones having an effect on humans. Your statement may be true for a beetle or a dog, but not people. "

According to Verhaeghe et al. (2013) "Pheromones and their effect on women’s mood and sexuality":

"Pheromones are substances which are secreted to the outside by an individual and received by a second individual of the same species. Many examples exist in animals but their role in humans remains uncertain since adults have no functioning vomeronasal organ, which processes pheromone signals in animals. Yet pheromones can be detected by the olfactory system although humans under develop and underrate their smelling sense... some data indicate that 16-androstene pheromones, in particular androstadienone, play a beneficial role in women’s mood, focus and sexual response, and perhaps also in mate selection."

source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3987372/

How interesting it would be to hear about two translesbians having passionate sexual, uh, something. But somehow they don't seem all that attracted to each other.

What they fail to understand is that pheromones are hard wired onto attraction and sex

There is no evidence of pheromones having an effect on humans. Your statement may be true for a beetle or a dog, but not people.

More generally:

That website is clearly awful. It's an example of the worst stereotypes of trans culture and it's right to take the piss out of it; but please remember that there are genuine transexuals on MN who've lead their whole life quietly passing and have no desire to see women's rights eroded. Let's not talk as if this website represents all trans people.

What an awful article! Such an inaccurate representation of women. Not a good representation for trans women either-all they’re good for is sex is what I gleaned from it.

Perhaps they don't realise that the pheromones associated with being a real woman, and the pheromones associated with the ability to bear a child will always trump a plastic vagina and willingness to have anal sex.

No amount of hormones and surgeries will take that away.

Quote from the article linked by the OP: "Women who have had Vaginoplasty have a surgically implanted vagina that is fresh and may feel better than that of a cis-women."

Note the author's opinion that there are two types of women: women (i.e. transgender-identifying males) and cis-women (biologically females). Are the women who don't have a problem with "cis" because it allegedly gives equal validity to how men and women express their womanhood, still OK with this?

A difference between women and transgender-identifying males is not the "freshness" of our vaginas, it is the "existence" of our vaginas: women have vaginas and trans-identifying males do not have vaginas.

If transwomen are women then an article about how to sleep with them is pointless because they are no different to other women.

Paris Lee's article reads like it was written by a teenage virgin. It's definitely complete bullshit.
The first article again I reckon they've never actually met a real woman. They've certainly blocked out any meeting with real women

"better proportioned"
An Adam's Apple balances the stunner boobs nicely?

The sad fact for transwomen is this.... The vast majority of straight men would prefer a woman with all her saggy bits and old vaginas over ANY trans woman with a fake vagina and fake breasts. What they fail to understand is that pheromones are hard wired onto attraction and sex and no amount of trans chanel No bollocks is going to change that.

*AGP

I know an ago He calls bum hole vagina and penis clit

Is this all just extreme peacocking?

This is an extract from a website I won't link to:

Peacocking is a term used by pickup artists (PUA's) to describe the act of wearing bright, flashy, attention getting clothing. This was made famous by Mystery ( the pickup artist most known for his VH1 show 'The Pickup Artist) as part of his 'Mystery Method' for attracting and seducing women. Mystery is known for taking this strategy to the extreme where he and his understudies would be seen wearing shiny shirts, light-up jewelry, feather boas, colorful cowboy hats, goggles, 5-inch platform boots, and anything else to make a PUA stand out in the crowd.

The theory behind peacocking is that the more attention one can draw to them self, the easier it will be to grab the attention of women and ultimately attract and seduce them. It is also said that the act of wearing such outrageous accessories and pieces creates the perception of confidence and comfort with ones self image. Someone who is not afraid to stand out in the crowd and be different is someone that most women will find attractive.

Peacocking taken to these extremes is not for everyone. A lot of people find it to be a cheesy and corny way to attract the attention of women, but no one can dispute its effectiveness as the results speak for themselves. I am not one to engage in this type of peacocking, but there are definitely some lessons to be learned here. I prefer to use a scaled down version of peacocking, wearing clothes and jewelry that are interesting and eye catching, but are not too out of the norm. Wearing bracelets, chains, dog tags, interesting patterns, unique colors, and hats are a great way to stand out while not looking ridiculous. Many PUA's refer to these kinds of items as conversational pieces. I have personally experienced this where girls would actually open me with questions or comments about what I was wearing. When you actually have women coming to you instead of you going to them it makes pickup a hell of a lot easier. Peacocking is something that should be individualized and limited to things you feel comfortable wearing. How are you going to handle talking to women when you feel like an idiot wearing something that makes you uncomfortable? Whether you decide to wear outrageous clothes and accessories or try the more scaled down version, you will definitely see an improvement in your ability to attract and pickup women.

If you don't think that any of this is for you, well I have one question for you... WHY?! There is probably a reason you are reading this and that is because you are SINGLE and LONELY. If you keep doing the same things you are going to keep getting the same results. It is time for you to make a change in your life and take control of your own destiny. If you are tired of going home ALONE well now is the time to learn the behaviors of an alpha male.

If you read that Paris Lees article carefully though (yuk) it seems they have been careful not to actually write anything which suggests they have a vagina.

Normally I wouldn't give a fuck what is between someone's legs or who they do what with, but when that person is lecturing women about how to be sexy and what constitutes good sex, and some of that consists of things like 'being rammed like a champ', having a random bloke come over and jizz all over you at a party, or being grabbed by the throat, as if this is all healthy stuff that women should be enjoying otherwise they are missing out, then yes, it does fucking matter actually.

They do have better proportioned bodies and are better in bed.
If you’re a gay man.

However if you are not a gay man then I’m pretty sure you’d prefer a woman.

That Paris lees article is bizarre considering they still have a penis. You can get wet in between your legs unless it’s sweaty balls. And What vagina?

That is absolutely fucking vile.