How to make love to a trans woman

Non trans women are frigid are they? I didn't get that memo...

To be fair a lot of men and women also believe this, I guess it is up to us to ensure our kids have a better understanding of basic biology.

Most of them think that a) we pee out of our vaginas and b) the clitoris is a stunted penis. So y'know. This one has as much anatomical understanding as you'd expect!

their sexy dreams, genuine typo, not anything else. X

Flomper, the bit about the vagina really sums up the writers pea brained idea of what a vagina, and by extension "woman" is.

If you were to imagine that a vagina is just a sex hole, which gets worn out and battered by sexual intercourse, then you might imagine that your brand new "man-made" (pun intended) vagina is superior.

The author wouldn't be so reductive and hilariously silly about a synthetic liver or a prosthetic limb, because they understand these body parts have a function outside of his sexy dreams.

And women no longer have to suck up all the crap in silence to survive. The domestic violence, the drudgery, the sex being quite legal to take from you by force if you didn't give it willingly (while magazines told you about your wifely duty to let your body be used to meet your husband's needs), the subordination, the hours and hours it took every day to keep a house clean, clothes clean, people fed.... the Grandma's Song from Billy Elliot sums it all up. 'Seventeen - that was it, your life ended when you had a ring around your finger'.

Now women don't have to stay when they're unhappy. They are free to have standards of how they're willing to be treated, of the amount of drudgery they're prepared to suck up, how much they will enable and facilitate a male partner to have freedom they can't share in, the inequality they're prepared to absorb. (Although if you go to AIBU and relationships you'll always find women scolding other women for not being sufficiently doormatty enough to win Good Girl Patriarchy Cookies).

Unicorns, "goes to have a cup of tea and watch the British Bake off in peace" yes! That's the problem. Some men want the world to revolve around them, and a lot of women are now living for themselves. It no longer takes a couple working in a team to keep a home.

I know it's not funny but I nearly splat out my tea at the suggestion that modern women have more issues than a transgender mtf

I'm not sure I've ever met anyone with more issues than the person who wrote that article, honestly. He doesn't just have issues, he has a subscription.

the bit about their fake vaginas being "virgin" and fresher and somehow better than ours because weve had ours for a number of decades cracks me up. Do they not realise that most of us have daily showers? and that our are made up of actual self lubricating muscle that we can grip with and control? I really cant imagine that that can be replicated.

I don't mind at all if trans identified men go off with all the femininity and all the men who expect their partners to be feminine.

He certainly sounds more like an angry man than a woman of any temperament whatsoever.

I went to a reunion of school friends at Christmas this year, about 30 years since we were teenagers together. It struck me how many of the girls I grew up with rejected marriage and are happy, single middle aged women enjoying their freedom. A couple were briefly married, many just didn't want the hassle.

Its clear from the trancel red pill stuff above that the main issue with women is their lives no longer centre wholly around a man. But that's fine, because we have men women who will serve men's needs much better than women will.

The difference between sexism and misogyny

Yes you're right

on the one hand they're the victims of so much 'hate speech' but they have no issues. Women born in to the right bodies are the ones with issues.

I know it's not funny but I nearly splat out my tea at the suggestion that modern women have more issues than a transgender mtf

Oh god same here.

The difference between sexism and misogyny.

Me too. I'd rather take my chances with the average bloke on the street than with a man with AGP in terms of safety, the odds are better.

I sincerely believe that AGP men are more, not less, likely to be dangerous to women than other men.

Zero personal insight, massive entitlement and Male rage. It’s a toxic cocktail.

Trans + incel = trancel, and that's exactly what we're seeing here, with all the bitter angry resentful misogyny that the term incel implies.

Exactly.

And the point is that these people exemplify all of the male pattern abusive attitudes and behaviour from the Duluth wheel that we have spent decades developing women's services for and legislating against. These are the very males services and laws protect us from. We cannot turn it back to women to manage on an individual basis - that's what gets women beaten and killed. The state must manage this level of delusion and disorder.

I can't help it if someone's inner sense of self results in a drastically reduced dating pool. I cannot be expected to personally manage it when such people come into my life and exhibit dangerous delusional behaviour. The services and laws that have evolved to protect me from having to do this cannot be undone by self-ID.

Trans-women take much better care of their appearance than the slovenly modern cis-woman.

Someone ought to tell Muscato and Peto, eh? Don't think they got the memo.

Of course this article doesn't prove that all transwomen are like this but some are and to those that will bend over backwards to defend these men I ask WHY? How can you not see the dripping hatred, the appropriation of womanhood...... And they wonder why we are fighting against this!

not all trans people are like this

Well yes of course. Let's call it what it is. These people are not 'trans' anything really - all of the above, every single word of it, is male entitlement, male rage, a particularly twisted version of the patriarchy writ large. These people could not display more negative masculinity if they tried. The woman-haters have simply taken a step further forward - we've worked out that we can do better than stamping on you, we can actually rub you out and make a fake version of you that belongs to us and we'll be back in charge of you, so nerr.

These people are masculine in every possible way, so masculine that they need to completely eclipse what they see as female, actually take it away and remake it in their own image.

As far as I can see, nothing that someone as deeply disturbed as Paris Lees writes has anything to do with gender dysphoria. If that person felt that they wished to be female and not male, then they presumably wouldn't display the hatred for women which is clear in every word they write, from their deeply entitled, utterly mascline, aggressive, testosterone-dripping perspective.

I feel for the many genuine 'trans' people out there who will suffer now that the troublemakers have crashed in and started throwing their weight around.

The first thing that you have to understand is that, despite what the mass media and the society says, transgender woman are women, and in many ways they are probably the only women around. A transgender woman, due to her unique position of being born in the wrong body, understands the needs and desires of men in ways that are impossible for an average cis-woman.

Wow, that's spelt it out quite clearly that the actual definition of being a real woman is being wholly centred around the needs and desires of men.

So a lesbian isn't a woman, and nor is a woman who just can't be arsed with men and wants to be single, and nor is a woman who has anything more important in her life than man-pleasing.

Trans-women take much better care of their appearance than the slovenly modern cis-woman.

I have looked at a few dating sites, though not with any serious intent, just to see how it all works since I became single recently. What struck me is that the women on dating sites look after their appearance a lot better than the men do. And it's women who are tired of OLD because of all the misogynistic, sex-crazed arsehole men they have to wade through.

I'm not here to mock, or to be horrible about these people for fun, and I know not all trans people are like this. However, a lot of people like this do get to be listened to at the moment thanks to the trans "trend" and the desperate desire of a lot of organisations and authorities not to appear transphobic. This is obviously the extreme end of the misogynistic bollocks, but the same, if milder, misogyny is there in a lot of the more mainstream debates as well. It's right to start a thread highlighting this and to discuss it and point out why it's wrong.

Trans + incel = trancel, and that's exactly what we're seeing here, with all the bitter angry resentful misogyny that the term incel implies. Maybe in the case of the MRAs who trans we could say they've taken the pink pill.