Pregnant trans men Guardian article

"Has anyone noticed that trans identified males "transwomen" make the news for sports, business, and politics while trans identified females "transmen" make the news for having babies?"-anon

hmmm

good point.

Wait...so, going bald is evidence of someone being male (even though hair loss can and does happen to women), but being pregnant and giving birth are no indication at all of being female?

I'm okay with the biology stuff, I get that. I even believe that sex and gender match up in the overwhelming majority. If Jason has been called 'female', I wouldn't have said anything, if someone wants to point out physical characteristics in a way that's offensive to another person, I can't say they're not accurate. 'Fat', 'ugly' and 'bald' are all perfectly accurate, descriptive terms and, for some, they're not negative or offensive. Still, most of us manage not to point out these accurate, physical realities.

Wouldn't it be nice if it was his films we were celebrating rather than the pregnancy?

It would be absolutely bloody lovely but not something you can really hold him responsible for.

My friend is bloody obsessed with her caravan. She is a heterosexual female.

Wait...so, going bald is evidence of someone being male (even though hair loss can and does happen to women), but being pregnant and giving birth are no indication at all of being female?

I can also assure you, he makes excellent films, sort of quite and touching and not in the least heavy handed. Well worth seeing.

Wouldn't it be nice if it was his films we were celebrating rather than the pregnancy?

It annoys me greatly that transmen only seem to appear in the media becasue they get pregnant.

As someone who has met Jason, he's a bloke. I'm an old dyke, I'm really good at spotting the whole sex thing and I can assure you, he's totally a bloke. From his balding head to his attachment to his caravan, he's a bloke.

I have no doubt at all he lives as a man and conforms to many masculine stereoptype. I also have no doubt he is a great person and I'd be interested in seeing his films.

But pregnancy can only be achieved through female biology and that is a fact.

Ah the Guardian celebrating TIFs for the only remarkable thing they can (apparently) do which is give birth. Not all that surprising when they are biologically female with all that comprises.

Someone on the first page said the Guardian bathes in Kool Aid - true enough - they use that stuff as the ink in their printing press.

Only men like caravans, Jelly, didn’t you know?

I am appalled by what they have done to Max

he's totally a bloke. From his balding head to his attachment to his caravan, he's a bloke.

'He' is female. 'He' is a woman who chooses to present herself and live her life according to male stereotypes.

Oh, except for the female attribute of child-bearing.

Pretty much every comment on the Guardian’s tweet linking to the article is along the lines that this is a woman who gave birth. Perhaps predictably, there are no TRAs at all jumping in saying “transmen are men” and the usual rounds of abuse. Funny that.

From his balding head to his attachment to his caravan, he's a bloke.

How do you know that somebody is male because they like caravans and suffer from hair loss?

My contempt for the corporate media grows exponentially with every article I read about a female man being pregnant.
"Has anyone noticed that trans identified males "transwomen" make the news for sports, business, and politics while trans identified females "transmen" make the news for having babies?"-anon

Why wouldn't I want to share a changing room with Jason? Jason has a vagina and a uterus.

And actually looks quite a lot of old dykes I know

As someone who has met Jason, he's a bloke. I'm an old dyke, I'm really good at spotting the whole sex thing and I can assure you, he's totally a bloke. From his balding head to his attachment to his caravan, he's a bloke.

You can make all of the assumptions you like about him and his family, (the idea of 'passive Tracey' did make me chuckle) but you really wouldn't want to share a changing room with him.

I can also assure you, he makes excellent films, sort of quite and touching and not in the least heavy handed. Well worth seeing.

It shows you cannot reduce people to easy categories

XX chromosomes = female

Only females can be pregnant.

There, that wasn't difficult.

Thanks @busyboysmum

the common conception of pregnancy as inherently female

Pregancy in humans is inherently female, as is producing eggs.

Some people attach a whole load of other sexist gender bollocks to the word 'female', but basically it means the sex that produces eggs.

I'm not sure as a friend posted it but there are a couple of articles below which are about the same person

4thwavenow.com/2016/04/27/shrinking-to-survive-a-former-trans-man-reports-on-life-inside-queer-youth-culture/

www.1843magazine.com/features/when-girls-wont-be-girls

@busyboysmum do you have a link to where that piece by Max Robinson was originally posted? I am writing to politicians at the moment and might use it

Exactly CapnHaddock, statements like that are simply ridiculous. I have never owned a pair of flowery trousers in my life, no, not even when I was pregnant. I must have been womaning wrong again.

And again, like that eejit in the Indie this morning, a narrative that fits with their story but isn't true: "Tracey went to New Look and bought a load of maternity trousers, but even the combats were embroidered with flowers. She had to get a needle and unpick them."

I managed to find pregnancy jeans, combats and work trousers without flowers embroidered on them. Thousands upon thousands of women do. Why do they always have to embroider their narrative to demonstrate just how terribly hard it is. It's just embarrassing.

Max's story makes me want to weep. It is so sad and so wrong that a person who was unhappy and dysphoric was allowed to make such harmful decisions. Max will bear the consequences of these actions for the rest of her life, and the doctors and surgeons will never face any repercussions of the harm they have done.

I think it's called 'having your cake and eating it'. I sometimes feel that, as a 'natural' woman. I'm at the bottom of an increasing pile. Not only am I below men, in terms of consideration, I'm now below trans women, trans men, gender neutrals etc. My needs are becoming increasingly unimportant to the world.

I'm old enough to remember being turned down for jobs just because I was female e.g. because 'the men won't like it'. Feminism, for me, is a real and meaningful thing. I find the increasing lack of focus on the remaining (and increasing) unfairness towards women, quite dismaying. It seems to be everyone's turn apart but mine.

It's astonishing to me that any surgeon would consider doing a mastectomy on a physically healthy 17-year-old struggling with 'emotional issues' (her words).I appreciate we don't have the full story and what else was tried to help her, etc, but I'm having difficulty imagining how that could ever be ethically justified?