Why are TIMs colonising womanhood when they hate us?

😂

It's like kung-fu but TERFy. Jet Li ain't got nothing on us.

“you are not a woman” then 💔 and that’s it?

What literally? 😂

What action does it have upon the body to do that though? Is it like the five point palm exploding heart thing only with words?

Misgendering literally kills people!

www.mentalhelp.net/articles/dsm-5-the-ten-personality-disorders-cluster-b/

I’m liking the histrionic one.

It's the correlation between trans and the Cluster B disorders. The majority of men don't have one, the majority of TIMs seem to.

I think that we’re all firmly shackled to the characteristics of our sex and the subconscious surfaces no matter how much it’s suppressed.

If it walks like a duck

Every interaction with transgendered males raises the same question in my mind. Are they all abusive males? I know that not all males are abusive. I have seen proof of that. I have yet to see a transgendered male who did not use the DARVO tactics. Are there any?

You know the other thread where several of us instantly clocked Jayceedove as not as nice as they were trying to pretend to be? Yeah. Would actually be great to be wrong about this occasionally, but alas.

This comes up in a thread discussing why all TIMs (trans women) hate women - with answers as bonkers as you might expect

Psychiatrists would have fun analysing all of this.

Funny you should be of this opinion Jayceedove because a common tactic of abusive men is to accuse the abused of being mad and needing a psychiatrist 🤔

It's been a long time since I saw a forum design as clunky as that Angels thing someone linked to.

Well, well, well.......nice to know what you really think of us Jayceedove

Those posts are gone now.

If I was trying to hide anything I would hardly be using the same username for all three sites.
Technically they are different user names when you go from one word to two words.
I don't really care. I have not trusted you and have suspected you were a troll from the first disingenuous post you made here.

There's some really interesting threads on the Angel site. I'm currently reading this one;
www.angelsforum.co.uk/phpforum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34111&sid=385decd9aad41797f7f6e1b831e83f58&start=60

There's a lot of reasonable comments (Kay M stands out), there's also a lot of victim blaming going on. From that thread and others it's pretty clear trans women and women have totally different perspectives, the abuse women have faced and genuine fears of men are minimised and brushed aside, it's also interesting to see how the people on the forum think women wanting spaces for themselves are the minority. It's opened my eyes a little more and I'm pretty much in the same place I was before I read them. Basically women should be able to have their own spaces free from XY and trans women should also be protected. Self ID is a big no and I'm more likely to support trans women using certain women's spaces with a GRC (in the U.K. at least).

Seeing you're being so honest and open can you please point out which posts here are completely bonkers?

Aussie Girl I will happily leave you alone. I have invested a lot of time on this forum in recent weeks because I am serious about getting this message across.

And it has to be got across to other trans people too, because there are people there equally culpable of creating a battle when we need that to be defused.

So I am going to keep saying that on Angels and Digital Spy too.

That's all I intend to say. Believe what you wish. However, nothing I have posted is untrue.

Daisy Drip, I have not hidden that I have posted on that forum and if you check my posts on Angels over weeks and months you will find that I have taken the same stance on self ID there as I have on here.

And had some criticism for it.

You will also find that I also said on there exactly what I said on here about last nights radio programme.

I have for the past three years posted extensively on trans matters on Digital Spy too - and you are more than welcome to check out what I have said on there and you will find I have been saying all the same things there for a long time. Not just for effect or recently on here.

If I was trying to hide anything I would hardly be using the same username for all three sites.

I don't have anything to hide. Angels is not an activists forum and does carry critical comment from trans people who are not looking for a fight.

If you are upset about my finding odd some of the ideas you have about why trans men are invading womanhood, well from my perspective they are odd.

I don't have a problem with your suggesting them. You should not have a problem with others disagreeing.

Some of us just want to be left alone and to live in peace from the ever present threat of violence from men. They will never get this or they get off on it somehow. Anyway back to lurking

Interesting. And here I was wondering if I was being unkind for thinking the male always has to center themselves, as sad as their narrative is, who hasn't been done over by a man? If I was into oppression Olympics I'd need to write a novel to cover how men have invaded every part of myself and my life, but then I'm not looking for cookies.

Be careful who you trust

Thank you all, but it was a different time then, of course, the 70s and 80s. This was not a subject in the pubic eye and there was no social media to let everyone have an opinion. Most people never came across or even heard of it at all if they missed the rare tabloid tittle tattle.

It was rare enough to easily get confused and worried over when it entered your life unexpectedly.

So, yes, it hurt at the time. But the house situation was resolved and he even later came to see me when I was in hospital as my gall bladder packed in (a now known side effect of high doses of premarin).

That was the last time I saw him and whilst I could never forget I tried to see why it was so difficult for him as well and came to terms.

Trans relationships are never going to be smooth and simple and rarely work out like that BBC sitcom Boy Meets Girl.

In the real world - as you are all realising - trans complicates lots of things and makes us have to see two sides of everything and the implications for those around you which could have very different consequences to any that you foresee.

So I have long since come to terms with the realisation that being trans means you have to compromise with life and see it from other people's perspective too, not just your own,

All relationships are like that really. Trans ones just with an added X (X Y ) factor.

The trick is to let experiences help shape you as a person and hopefully become better for it.

This is why I find all those out there who demand and insist that everyone should see it their way and if not you are a bigot hard to understand. That approach seems so one sided and lacking in awareness that you are not the only one involved in what good sense should tell you is pushing the boundaries of life for many around you. Being aware of that frees you from blaming others and should help breed tolerance.

I hope.

I think an element of good old fashioned 'male control'.

Possibly think women are rubbish at being women and need to be shown how to do it properly. (In some cases, not all obviously).

Pete Burns for sure with the competitive need for attention from other males.

Jaycee What an utter bastard!