Scottish GRA

good luck gardenGeek

Hmmm

disability and trans status are self defined aren't they?

Religon is also a protected characteristic I think - which is also often self defined

So, door open for any man who wishes to have the ability to take a space over a woman,

This is a massive pushback isn;t it.

As I understand it, it's OK and normal to have white middle class men running everything,
But the spaces which are for "diversity" people must not be taken by white middle class women

While it is true that while middle class women are more likely than other sorts of women to get to positons of power, well paid etc,

This doesn't mean that it's a good idea to take them all out and give the spaces to men who say they have a disability, instead, for example.

Leave the women there and give some of the over-represented men's spaces to disabled men etc

This idea that white middles class women are THE WORST is a patriarchal pushback as at the moment, they are the only ones who have managed to actually get anywhere, and it's a good way of pushing them back out again.

It’s totally weird living in Scotland
You can say that again. Iv been sitting fuming and I cant even articulate my thoughts to get them down on paper to my msp. Im not even sure what angle to approach it from since its now law.

And this from a Labour woman MSP. It looks to me that this says any man who is part of a class with a protected characteristic under the Equality Act gets a place over a woman. So aman with a disability, or a black or minority ethnic man, gay man.
It’s totally weird living in Scotland. Bananas place where government decides to eliminate material reality.

This shows the amendments where becoming female is mentioned. And the te break. Make of this what you will. These are politicians.

it may well be an unwelcome change in approach to definitions
Agreed. This just too depressing. Looks like its yet another letter to my msp

What constitutes the "process" though? If it is signing a form ........ One would think that the processes itself would need to be defined in law to make it meaningful

This mirrors the Equality Act and no there is no definition of the "process" in law.

MarSeeAh when that happens maybe you could claim carers or child benefit if your dog is 16, or up to 19 and in full time education

Oh wow

So "becoming female"

So not just woman, girl, gone as ways of describing cunty people
But "female" as well

Thus the erasure of "women as a class" is complete.

There is literally no word to describe cunty people any more as a discrete group, in law, in scotland.

Awesome.

So the board could be 100% men who are "living as women" and intend to change into females sometime Awesome thank

Should I contact my MSP and ask "When my dog becomes human will her age be counted in dog years or human years?"

If he tells me that that's ludicrous and impossible, then I can say that it's no more ludicrous or impossible than a male becoming female.

Scarlet, that's exactly it. It is a precedent for how they will word and frame future legislation.

As I read it, this is just about who counts as a woman for the purpose of getting equal representation of men and women on Scottish public boards. I don't think it has effect for any other purposes - but it may well be an unwelcome change in approach to definitions.

This shows the intent of the Scottish government, in how they intend to go forward with their sex and gender legislation.

The wording in this Act of "becoming female" is astonishing. Not only are they taking the word 'woman', they are now taking and reinterpreting the word 'female' as well.

Does this mean that instead of having to have a GRC to be considered legally ‘female’, one now only has to have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment?

Men can't "become" women surely?

What constitutes the "process" though? If it is signing a form ........ One would think that the processes itself would need to be defined in law to make it meaningful

And yes, if it's got Royal Assent it's now law. Although the provisions won't necessarily have all come into effect at Royal Assent. There may be a Commencement Order kicking around somewhere saying when particular provisions come into force.

The Act, in its definition section, says that :
"woman" includes a person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment (within the meaning of section 7 of the Equality Act 2010) if, and only if, the person is living as a woman and is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of becoming female.
I'm certainly not a lawyer but I read this as taking the protected characteristic from the Equality Act and putting what sounds like a limitation on it ("if and only if") for the purposes of this new Act. Is that a problem?

So they've actually made this law?