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Scottish GRA

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Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/03/2018 12:26

Have just seen this on Twitter. Trying to get my head around it, so am hoping that somebody a lot more clued up than me can shed some light on it. I just know that it's not likely to be a good thing.

"The Scottish Govts newly passed gender bill, the Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scot) Bill, has redefined the language used in the GRA. A person is no longer reassigned a gender. This legislation now defines it as 'becoming female'."

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Freshlylaidterf · 22/03/2018 07:36

Please write to your msp. There's a new thread about this. Thanks

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/03/2018 07:34

And there goes my faint hope that ScotGov might actually read the consultation responses Sad

thebewilderness · 22/03/2018 00:17

I have thought from the beginning that the politicians who embraced transgenderism are using it to drive women out of the public sphere.
Germain Greer warned us years ago that "Women have very little idea how much men hate them."

thebewilderness · 22/03/2018 00:14

They have redefined the words male and female to include each other is the person says so.

ScienceIsTruth · 22/03/2018 00:09

Tbh, I've always thought of it as a mental illness, along the same lines as anorexia, so there's never been a 'Eureka!' moment for me.

ScienceIsTruth · 22/03/2018 00:06

And I'm someone who would never have described myself as a feminist, I've also never really supported any particular political party either.

This issue has galvanised me into trying to make my voice heard though, and I've learnt a lot along the way, including about myself.

For the sake of my children and girls everywhere, this is the hill on which I'm prepared to make a stand and fight. Just not sure how atm.
I want to get involved in #manfriday, but I don't have Facebook, and really don't want to open an account there for any reason.

Winewinewinegin · 22/03/2018 00:01

I don't think they get it yet. Think about where you were before you got it, and what clicked. Tell friends, get the word out to voters however you can, be inspired by the brilliant women already speaking out.

ScienceIsTruth · 21/03/2018 23:57

Actually, horrified would be the right word to describe how I'm feeling.

I don't think the people in power making these decisions are stupid. This then begs the question:

What the hell is their true agenda, ie, their endgame?
Are they deliberately trying to erode women's rights?

Are they trying to erase women/females altogether?

Are they hoping this leads to a revolution & and an extreme right-wing government taking over?

OR are they going for some kind of 1984 scenario to evolve from this?

I don't believe that anyone with a brain actually believes humans can change sex, so what exactly are they playing at? What are they trying to achieve? Do they want us to end up resenting anyone different?

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

I really want to get off this crazy world now, I'm done!

Winewinewinegin · 21/03/2018 23:42

It is definitely worth organising and making a fuss. Media interest is picking up. Keep going, tell people, explain - there are millions of us.

Bejazzled · 21/03/2018 23:40

Scienceistruth

We wouldn't be allowed to. People who 'identify' as women would force their way onto the island

Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/03/2018 23:39

I was talking to an American on Twitter, and she's wanting to do just that. She's looking to buy a large piece of land and make it women only.

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ScienceIsTruth · 21/03/2018 23:36

I can't see past this atm. I'm really disappointed and scared for the future of women's rights.

This is the only solution that I can think of just now:

I'm now thinking that we should all club together and buy a big, uninhabited island somewhere and all fuck off there (with our families) and leave these idiots to their Orwellian nightmare.

PlectrumElectrum · 21/03/2018 23:23

I'm fucking fuming about this.

Angry

I genuinely feel sick at what they've done with this.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/03/2018 23:21

I feel so bad for all the Scottish women who've just been chucked under the trans bus.

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Bejazzled · 21/03/2018 23:20

Ive just done that Agerbil

I'm utterly ashamed to be a Scottish woman at the moment.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/03/2018 23:03

You could always do a copy and paste and post it somewhere else?

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RunningWild12 · 21/03/2018 22:34

Agerbiltatemycardigan Thanks for this. This explains it all. I don’t know how to bump thi so people see it.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/03/2018 22:17

Just found this

fairplayforwomen.com/scottish_stole_woman/

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Freshlylaidterf · 21/03/2018 21:24

Dont be be sorry. Its little wonder given all that is going on as you have said. I cant think of anything just now - too tired and fed up. I have started a letter to my MSP though. Hopefully with a fresh head tomorrow I will get some inspiration. Maybe other Scotland mumsnetters on here have some ideas. May post in AIBU about ' changing to female' wording if im feeling brave enough. Remember the #manfriday women too. Now theres inspiration!

Bejazzled · 21/03/2018 21:14

freshlylaid
But how? There is not one major political party or even individual major politician willing to take it on. The petition asking the UK government for women to be consulted isn't gaining momentum. The BBC is holding a 'special' Question Time which anyone who isn't naive can see is going to be loaded in one direction.
Any female voice raising a concern is either shouted down, ignored, or dissed as being trans-phobic.
I'm honestly just so dispirited. Sorry.

Freshlylaidterf · 21/03/2018 21:02

Bejazzled
I understand it does feel like that but I agree with runningwild. We can organise.

Bejazzled · 21/03/2018 21:00

I'm just shocked, honestly we are fucked aren't we?

GardenGeek · 21/03/2018 20:16

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RunningWild12 · 21/03/2018 19:49

gardengeek I got it from Twitter thread by Scottish Wome. Should have said! And will try to confirm. But have to say Scottish Women on twitter knows her stuff and is usually v reliable.
We won’t take it lying down. We can organise against this. There are women from all walks of life in Scotland who are willing . I must just clarify, this is about representation on public bodies, not about GRA or about applying for normal public sector jobs.

GardenGeek · 21/03/2018 19:47

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