James O'Brien now

HomeTerf yep, and his 'innocent face' nonsense claim of not being able to go swimming with his daughter anymore.

I'm sure he'd have some clearer thoughts on it if his daughters went on a GG trip and they shared accommodation with a man self-identifying as a woman.

Hi @NannyOggsKnickers

I like the analogy. I have another personal one.

Despite identifying as a mother, biology didn’t cooperate with me, even though I have all the right biological bits, they just don’t work for some reason.

From deciding to adopt, to being placed with a child was just under three years. I couldn’t just rock up saying I identified as a mother and be handed a child. I faced intense scrutiny of my mental, emotional, physical and financial health. My friends, family, employers, past therapist were all questioned about my fitness to parent. I had to attend training, read lots of books, demonstrate learning and understanding, fill in endless forms, have medical and DBS checks and go to endless meetings with social workers and go to two approval panels. None of which biological mothers have to do.

Family would get frustrated on my behalf. “Can’t they see you’d be a good mother? Anyone can tell just by meeting you.” But they can’t. They have to be sure you are robust and can deal with set backs. I don’t resent the intrusion, even though biological parents don’t face it, even though there were times I despaired of ever being placed and feared it would never happen, because it had to be right because you are dealing with big life changing decisions.

Those three years gave me time to be sure I wanted this and I was doing the right thing. If I could just fill in a form online I wouldn’t have been made stronger and more sure of myself and given the tools to cope.

Apologies if this has already been answered, but does anyone have a link to listen to the show? I missed it.

It seems that people like Paris fail to understand that the system mostly worked for years firstly due to courtesy and secondly because orgs like Stonewall weren't invested at that point in widening the umbrella of trans to include practically everyone.

The system began failing at the point TRAs started to tell women to worship their lesbian ladycocks and shut up talking about transphobic vaginas and the like.

It's called egregious overreach and I'm surprised that they assumed there would be no pushback to that. Guess it's that pesky male socialisation coming into play.

So far the approach has been to file discrimination charges against any women's shelter that does not admit males who identify as women in order to bankrupt them.

JOB was trashed by his fans after the way he spoke to Posie. I think he realised he seriously misjudged popular opinion and today was his attempt to eat a serving of humble crumble.

He really simpers over the transwomen though. I don't usually listen to him but it strikes me as being very out of character for him.

Datun, what about women's refuges? Are they exempt from the Equality Act?

Self id as a concept is completely ridiculous anyway, and will harm women and transwomen alike.

And LabourLostMe he's too stupid and self-obsessed to realise that keeping men out of changing rooms will PROTECT HIS DAUGHTER in the long run. He's so busy staging the martyred 'caring dad' charade - 'wahhh, mean wimmin are stopping me spending innocent quality time with my little girl!!' - that he hasn't thought ahead to how he'll feel in a few years time when his daughter goes swimming by herself/with her mates and finds some hairy-arsed bloke watching her through a gap in the cubicle curtain. (Obviously it's too much of a stretch for him to think how his daughter will feel...)

If paris has been using womens facilities for years with no problems then clearly the system works ok as it is. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Which is why I held on for an hour on the phone, as I wanted to tell O'Brien why he's confused.

Paris Lees isn't really lying.

Self identification to get a gender recognition certificate will only really benefit prisoners and men who want to get all women shortlists.

The other things, Swim England, girl guides, locker rooms and changing rooms, enable men to self identify as women because of the equality act.

And that's not what this thing about self ID is.

What has happened, and what Lees neglects to mention, is that the issue of self ID has highlighted the flaw in the equality act, which is being exploited.

JOB isn't worried about his job. He's worried about his brand. His brand as a right-on brocialist who's also ace at doing feminism.

He is a nob. His daughter is right though, she told him men can't be women. Sadly the only woman JOB listens to on this subject is Fox. Fox who does photo shoots of girls in binders for magazines.

Labourlose: yyy. His 'so I would be punished because some men are rapists' is nauseating.

And well done Hannah, you were brilliant

It's a shame they didn't get Roz and her substantiated facts back on.

So JOB thinks it's ok for him to enter women's changing rooms when his with his daughter (wtf!) and seemed annoyed that this would be a problem 'just' because some men are violent predators, yet he wholeheartedly agreed that the transwomen should not be expected to change in the men's changing rooms because some men are violent predators.

This is radio station that had Katie Hopkins with her own show, worried about losing job he is not!

Someone on twitter should reply to Paris Lees. Maybe say something like 'if you really want the facts on Self-ID go on mumsnet or Sage". PL is lying through their fake teeth.

Anyone know why PL doesn't have a GRC as per the above tweets? What is their reasoning? Given their high profile status I'm assuming there are no barriers other than perhaps time on a waiting list to getting one.

I wonder how other people hear it when a self styled feminist male advocates so clearly for a double standard as he did.

Thank you Sweary brilliant!

LadyMcLadyCrisps for you. Hope you feel better soon.

Yes. Sometimes the sheer glamour of migraines, period pain, stress incontinence etc just overwhelms me.

And my period pants are hella sexy
Who wouldn't want to be me?

JOB isn't worried about his job. He's worried about his brand. His brand as a right-on brocialist who's also ace at doing feminism.

Yes. Paris Lees has been tweeting about self id all afternoon. I imagine they are very annoyed at their bezzie James for even putting this up for debate.

Mouthtrousersafrocknowandthen Mon 19-Mar-18 15:32:08
JOB blocked me,

What? That's really crap of him. I didn't realise he was a block people that say stuff I don't like type. But I guess it would make sense - the way he uses his mute button on the show, and talks over women people.

JOB isn't worried about his job. He's worried about his brand. His brand as a right-on brocialist who's also ace at doing feminism.

yep

JOB isn't worried about his job. He's worried about his brand. His brand as a right-on brocialist who's also ace at doing feminism.