To think that Labour thinks women are fecking eejits

It’s obvious now it was a gay man, and when it was hating on women, well he was totally cool with that homophobia, but picking on gay men. No.

Interesting also, that LM called the, rich cis white gay men, and tb took out the cis.

Not so nice when it’s directed at you eh TB?

Quite.

I'm assuming Terfblocker is a cis gay man then. Not so great when the ideology turns on you is it?

It's bloody hilarious.

It's the funniest thing since ManFriday went swimming in the men's pool. (The funniest thing before that was the meeting going ahead in the HOC)

Madigan tweeted something about neoliberals and rich cis white gay men being privileged and transphobic. So TERFblocker said "Hey, that's homophobic" - and Madigan talked about "naming oppression" - then a few others were charging in and all arguing - some getting agonising splinters on their bum at the sheer horror of the transphobe-homophobe war of Sunday March 18th 2018.

Then TERFblocker accidentally misgendered someone. Then I think TERFblocker actually blocked Madigan. Then TERFblocker deleted himself.

Sandy's done a fab cartoon.

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Lots of people also commenting how rampant lesbophobia was just fine with old TERFblocker - but then Lily came for the gay cis men.....

Terf, what are they arguing about? i was blocked for asking a question.

Just put this on another thread but I think it might be more appropriate here.

From the list of recommendations in Maria Miller's Transgender Equality Report:

22. We recommend that the Equality Act be amended so that the occupational requirements provision and / or the single-sex / separate services provision shall not apply in relation to discrimination against a person whose acquired gender has been recognised under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. (Paragraph 132)

The Tories have rolled back on this and are now saying in TV interviews and letters to constituents that they won't be amending the EA. Labour endorsed the report when it came out and haven't rolled back on a thing. Rather, as we've all seen, they've doubled down.

I do not consider the EA to be safe under a Labour government. This is why I left the party.

I will never, never, never, never vote for them until they have reversed course on this and done it openly, with apologies to women, and put in the manifesto in words of one syllable so they can't go back on it.

Lily Madigan, "Terfblocker" and Tris "you women have lost, and will lose a little more every day" Osborne are all arguing on Twitter.

Now Terfblocker has deleted their account.

LM is gloating, because they are such a nice person, and everyone loves a gloater.

They are literally eating themselves.

I will vote labour again when they scrap self-ID as a policy.

Not WOS, AWS

Does this mean that until June, all WOS will include or exclude self id women?

I think they will just get rid of AWS. Will be a vote winner with men, and TRA/MRAs win. Fuck women. Its always been about taking away the few things women actually have anyway, especially for the likes of Madigan.

I don't think TRAs will be happy with the delay though, as I am sure they were planning a massive gloat over it all tomorrow.

As far as I can tell, it is published by Taylor & Francis, a reputable publisher. It doesn't seem to be very widely-read (at least online) or very influential, though

A little niche, then.

I'm embarrassed to admit, if I could only believe they were genuinely thinking about it, that might actually be enough. It's pathetic how little I am asking for. I'm like someone in a bad relationship, always looking for a reason to give them one more chance.

But even I need something a little bit more than, 'Wait until after my birthday so you can buy me a present first.'

Will this affect Jennifer's legal challenge?

Is the International Journal of Transgenderism legit?

As far as I can tell, it is published by Taylor & Francis, a reputable publisher. It doesn't seem to be very widely-read (at least online) or very influential, though.

Is the International Journal of Transgenderism legit? It sounds very one-sided - The World Professional Association for Transgender Health

that paper was published in a peer reviewed journal which is standard for academic research- i.e. you can't just make stuff up as your peers review it before publication

I can't see it taking much of a wide ranging view.

Wow. I’m shocked to see the term TERF being used here. I asked Lily Madigan a very polite question some time ago and was immediately blocked by him and placed on a terfblocker list. So any question they don’t like gets you labelled a TERF and debate is immediately shut down.

Don’t vote Green either. I queried the used of the term TERF and was told that I’m not welcome in the party and that I should try UKIP. I have queried it with their Governance administrator and they are “looking into the background of the term” as it’s disputed that it is offensive and they don’t care if I resign my membership and don’t vote for them.

trans-bi activist

The men in the party don't like Stella. But, and this is important, she is a good constituency MP.

I doubt any of her constituents would know Julia Serano was. Can't understand way this is linked to her.

I am really not impressed by MPs calling people transphobic. It is shutting down debate as far as I am concerned. And as Jackie Holyoake said, it is worthy of a police visit in the current climate , so they really need to be more careful.

Don't know anything about JS - will have to look it up.

Oh ffs Stella is now recommending a Julia Serano piece. God forbid that women can discuss politics without being recommended to focus on male "wisdom".

I liked Stella. She's a massive, massive disappointment.

I'm in a dilemma now. am on the may day for women list, but I'm sick of that bunch of misogynistic wankers getting my £4 a month. If I resign now am I breaking solidarity with mayday for women?

Genuinnely don't know what to so.

Lifelong labour voter here.

Will not be voting for them ever again unless there is a serious about turn in the way I perceive their views on women. It’s not just self ID it’s the dismissive way it’s been handled. It’s really exposed to me just how much these supposedly right on left wingers actively dislike women.

For the foreseeable, I’m a single issue voter. You oppose self ID, you conduct a rational and ethical (ie no UKIP/BF type parties) debate and you get my vote.

I'm pleased by the announcement. I can't see myself voting for another party so its a relief that they may see sense.

I can't see how they're going to get out of it though. Whatever they say people will not be happy.

Reported on the BBC.

Link to clip via Venice Allan

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