To think that Labour thinks women are fecking eejits

I like the cut of OP's jib.

amber - The GRA was introduced in 2004. Remind us who was in power then? As for the Tories, they have decided not to press ahead with self-ID. If Labour had won the last election, they would certainly have implemented it by now. Their manifesto is duplicitous. It promises to enforce single-sex exemptions, but they have clearly said that they will allow people to self-declare into the legal sex of their choosing and that it will be illegal to discriminate against trans people. I am also thinking about who is going to succeed Corbyn and have heard both Angela Rayner and Dawn Butler touted as possibilities. This would be laughable if it wasn't so frightening. Both of them are gullible ideologues, incapable of having a critical thought between them, and lacking any kind of ability to even comprehend never mind deal with the concept of conflicting rights.

Don't you just love the Streisand effect? This thread had been languishing in obscurity till some Momentum eager beaver, tasked with doing a bit of amateur astriturfing, but without the skill set, bumped it.

Bit of an own goal, I think.

It was the liberal democrats who introduced the GRA, The Tories who wanted to amend the thing, so why would people try to blame Labour? I know because they're the ones who want to be most inclusive...right or wrong. There's a couple of women from Labour that have come out to appease the trans activists in the last couple days I think, but they've been dishonest and suggested the EA is somehow illegal! This isn't true so i 'd ignore that and concentrate on the manifesto which promises to enforce the EA.

Remember that the Tories saying that they won't amend the EA is different from them kicking the GRA reforms into the long grass. They have gone quiet on the GRA reform , but it's still official policy - from the mouth of the PM herself. Even now, the EA is failing to prevent schools, hospitals etc from allowing men to self-ID into women's spaces. If self-ID is legalised, this can only get much worse. I'm worried that the Tories plan to keep us quiet with promises about the EA, then sneak GRA reform through. At present, there is only 1 Tory MP openly opposed.

We need to keep up the pressure on the Tories. It's helpful that the right-wing press are all now criticising self-ID.

I'm not au fait with those leaving Labour members. Are they "Blairites" or whatever? Some LP members seem to be cheering on the Party losing Blairites

Think of the warring factions in Labour as a Venn diagram.

The Blairites v the Corbynites is a battle on economic policies - one highly pro-market, one socialist.

The battle over transgender has two separate groups, one pro-self ID, the other against. But those two groups each contain members of the Blairite and Corbynite factions.

There are many more factions. It's a complicated Venn diagram!

I'm not au fait with those leaving Labour members. Are they "Blairites" or whatever? Some LP members seem to be cheering on the Party losing Blairites

Just as everyone who questions Lily is a transphobe- everyone who is not slavishly devoted to St Jeremy is a Blairite.

I Think they will just remove AWS and hope that that shuts everyone up... it won't though!

Lily's default pattern seems to be that they are alienated within whatever setting they are in and they then attack. Family, school and now the gay community. They'll be causing no end of trouble for Labour...

The Tories have rolled back on this and are now saying in TV interviews and letters to constituents that they won't be amending the EA.

Sorry, I missed this earlier. Yes. Amber Rudd said it on Marr and several MNers have posted replies from their MPs saying the same thing (one with reference to a minister).

I'm not au fait with those leaving Labour members. Are they "Blairites" or whatever? Some LP members seem to be cheering on the Party losing Blairites.

Just like Lily when Lily & cronies cheered on losing "transphobes" - as I said to Lily on Twitter, shortly before Lily blocked me, I've never known a party who wanted to lose votes.

Lily, and certain others, seem to think the Labour Party is some sort of vehicle for their own ideology.

Hmmmmmm. Who is the biggest a hole in the party administration?...

Absolutely no sense of how much of a hole this is putting in the party administration.

Nope. Like 'em or not, decades of politicking experience has been lost in a single day. And the incomers have not exactly covered themselves in competence glory, even if you do like their politics.

I'm honestly glad I left.

Lang agghhh I'm shuddering!!!

Honestly though, the reaction to the news from the JC faithful is simply one of glee...out with the Blairite faction etc etc

Absolutely no sense of how much of a hole this is putting in the party administration. Sigh..

DarthArts - imagine if the Labour HQ operation gets any more ham fisted than it already is!

The time looks right for Mayday4women to trigger their mass resignation too. We were told we would have a decision today, yet women are fobbed off.

Indeed lang

This is just some of the announcements today - I couldn't screen shot them all in one photo.

All very senior, experienced party officials.

At this rate the LP will be losing more people than the Trump administration...

It keeps going back to a loss of centre. If only the Lib Dems would do what they say they are on the tin or Labour moved over to the centre.

I am part way through a book Witchcraft by Malcolm Gaskill, he covers witch trails, religion and politics. We have not only lost the centre ground in politics, we have lost Christianity it's being replaced by other faiths like transology. We have men not trusting women old as time and a new type of "woman" on the scene, so the first double witch hunt in history.

I think they've got bigger fish to fry at the moment. Apparently half of Labour HQ is resigning now they've made Jenny Formby Gen Sec.

It's all a bit of a disaster.

At the moment I'm so pissed off I'd vote Tory just to piss off the lefty Dude-Bros.

That's how pissed off I am.

But the tories have done what's called "kicking this into the long grass" I think.

I think they thought they could easily get social justice brownie points, and appeal to the young vote, without actually having to spend any money - and hadn't actually thought it through.

Given that most of the ire is focused on Labour at the moment I think they are keeping their heads down and hoping no one asks them any difficult questions.

The Tories have rolled back on this and are now saying in TV interviews and letters to constituents that they won't be amending the EA.

Is this definite langcleg? Any formal commitment to it? I’m very reluctant to vote Tory but to me this is such a huge issue that it might come to that.

Not much of a choice is it? Eradication of protection for women or destruction of social justice :(

Interesting also, that LM called the, rich cis white gay men, and tb took out the cis.

Lol was he trying to suggest trans "men" were involved? With their oodles of male privilege.

Love the cartoon Sandy