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Man Friday hits the news!

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NotAWhacktivist · 18/03/2018 00:55

This doesn't seem to have been posted yet. Hats off to this women (she has posted here about her efforts)

Topless swimmer wades into trans row
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9a8e437c-2a35-11e8-8cd0-05c64066237c

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/03/2018 05:07

This is the link to the petition. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

Amy you rock!

womanformallyknownaswoman · 18/03/2018 04:35

Next target the all-male clubs:

Women are often unwelcome and in at least three well-known clubs they are barred from admission. One of them is Brooks’s. Another is David Cameron’s former club, of which his father was chairman, White’s, where Prince Charles held his stag night before his marriage to Diana.
But the third is perhaps the most curious of them all, raising questions about the clubs’ crossover into public life. The little-known Beefsteak Club, located in Irving Street in Leicester Square, is fiercely men-only.

Also

Garrick Club
Travellers Club
Pratt’s, an all-male dining club
Muirfield Golf Club male-only
Bullington Club at Oxford University, a notorious men-only club, members Cameron and Boris Johnson

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/25/men-only-clubs-and-menace-how-the-establishment-maintains-male-power
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jan/25/men-only-clubs-and-menace-how-the-establishment-maintains-male-power

Juzza12 · 18/03/2018 04:31

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treaclesoda · 18/03/2018 03:53

The comments on the Mail article are pretty depressing, sadly. Calling them stupid and petty etc. And even cruel and nasty Hmm Although I don't suppose I should be surprised.

But personally I'm in awe of them both.

worstwitch18 · 18/03/2018 03:45

Amy you rock.

The articles didn't explain it enough, I don't think, but if anyone has access to the comments (paywall) a link to the petition would be good.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 18/03/2018 03:42

Great work. A shame that the articles don't explain why this is necessary.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 18/03/2018 03:12

Go Girls…. fantastic - taking action in the real world is very courageous - I salute you

PencilsInSpace · 18/03/2018 02:43

Amy and Hannah you rock! More balls than Millwall Grin

StarStarStarStarStar

BitOfFun · 18/03/2018 02:40

Fantastic work, well done!

CunningOperative · 18/03/2018 02:38

I LOVE YOU AMY

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2018 02:22

Well done!

boatyardblues · 18/03/2018 02:15

If anyone can post a sharetoken for the Times article, that would be great.

Well done, Amy & Hannah!

northender · 18/03/2018 01:40

Well done Amy, how brave & wonderful. I followed the original thread and will be sharing this article on Facebook, I've had enough.

MissBax · 18/03/2018 01:39

Give that woman a medal!!

ArcheryAnnie · 18/03/2018 01:28

The Hat! The Hat is in the Mail photo!

Also - my goodness, what's this?

Bernard Reed, a trustee of the Gender Identity Research and Education Society, said: ‘This case demonstrates that women may enter men’s spaces, just as men may enter women’s spaces.

I trust that GIRES will presumably now be under an onslaught of TRA sparklemobs, faces covered, chanting "burn it down" outside their offices at GIRES' terrible transphobia in naming men as men and women as women. If GIRES would like some advice about how to deal with this onslaught, they are welcome to ask for help on these threads.

LabourLostMe · 18/03/2018 01:27

Amy and Hannah and others involved ThanksWhat you have done is amazing and terribly brave! Thank you!

I do wish that the press would stop referring to feminists though as (although I definitely am a feminist) many women/people sharing these concerns are not.

MistressDeeCee · 18/03/2018 01:23

Oh who is she? I think I'm in love.

Just a bit concerned now that Self-IDs will say 'well as you see, women identifying as men are perfectly able and allowed to self-identify and use male facilities, so, there is no issue with men self-IDing as women entering womens' spaces..'
Or something along those lines

HerFemaleness · 18/03/2018 01:19

Also, well bloody done.

HerFemaleness · 18/03/2018 01:19

I hate to say it but the Mail article is better. It's not just about the fear of being attacked, it's the need for privacy away from the eyes of the opposite sex. The Mail conveys that better and shows that it is utterly ridiculous when people can just say ''I'm a man'' when they're clearly a young woman, and then expect to be granted free access to men's events and male changing rooms.

GardenGeek · 18/03/2018 01:11

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ArcheryAnnie · 18/03/2018 01:10

(Or it would have been pom poms if I hadn't forgotten what asterisks do to text...)

ArcheryAnnie · 18/03/2018 01:09

She's a fucking hero!

\o/

(that's someone waving pom-poms since there isn't an appropriate emoji for this!)

AreYouTerfEnough · 18/03/2018 01:05

Perhaps we should start using the men’s toilets. We could peer over their shoulders and tell them we’re just interested to know how our male vaginas measure up against theirs 😂

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