Law Society virtue signalling

Assuming a tiny minority isn't worth giving any thought to is rather naive.

Women can be patronising.

I am a member of the Law Society and will be emailing.

Isn't "think about it" the sort of patronising phrase we criticise men for using. You are soooo much more thoughtful than I am?

They may be a tiny minority and there are far more women, but it only takes one to wreck a huge number of women.

In any given profession males already have a huge advantage through basics of being male.
It only takes on of them to identify as female and that takes away the top prize opportunity from hundreds of women. This is why we have "women only" anything. It recognises that disadvantage.

In any given women-only space you only need ONE male to effect every single woman in that space.

Think about it. 2rebecca

Hey jon66

Took your advice.
Read the Equality Act

Found this part interesting.

The law society knows the profession is not working well for women:
www.lawsociety.org.uk/news/press-releases/largest-ever-survey-on-gender-equality-in-legal-profession/

I would rather see them trying to sort these issues than virtue signalling.

The university I work at is offering a PhD scholarship for women in a field where women are significantly underrepresented. Yes, you guessed it, it's open to self-identitying women.

I'm sure it was only a few months ago the Law Society were celebrating 100 years since the first female solicitor was admitted!?

How to render what should be a valuable award virtually meaningless. Another female solicitor here. During my career I've put up with sexual assault and discrimination from male colleagues and had to lower my aspirations to have a family life. I am definitely not alone in my experiences and I'm angry at the thoughtlessness and unfairness of this gesture. I will be writing to the Law Society.

Well done all the female solicitors on here - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do write and complain and explain why.... Here is one place where surely rational argument and what is CURRENTLY the law rather than might be the law in the future HAS to win out..... Good luck to all of you

Another complaint going in on Monday from me. Although, as I am a biological woman, I daresay my views may be overlooked...

They will give a man an award, wait and see. Here is the man that got the woman in finance awards.

He thinks women that don't believe he is a woman part time will never amount to anything anyway.

twitter.com/PippaBunce/status/949597497147691008
Pippa Bunce
Head of Global Markets Technology Core Engineering Integrations Components
Credit Suisse
Pips took the conscious decision to be ‘out’ at work as gender fluid to embrace and advocate the importance of authenticity as well as to shine a light on the power and diversity of women in the workplace. Multiple aspects of our identity, including gender identity/expression, ethnicity, age, sexual orientation, disability and religion influence our experiences at work. Our sex or gender may be the same, but our identities, our successes and our struggles are different and it is for this reason why Pips is proud to be a female champion in business. She is a member of the European Women’s Network/IT Women’s Council and had many external publications relating to gender equality published. Additionally, she has been integral in providing reverse mentoring to management board members of the firm and is co-lead of the LGBT & Ally program at Credit Suisse where she places much importance on intersectionality and how the voices of all types of women and our allies need to be heard to drive forward gender equality – our differences make us stronger and diversity should be celebrated, not tolerated. Pips is also a regular panellist/speaker on gender equality, and often interviewed by external publications on the topic.

It makes it sound really tokenist. I've not been a fan of women's this that and the other in the past and avoided the women's sections of any political party I've been in and hated women only lists whilst accepting grudgingly that they did lead to more women in positions of power.
The only area I really support women's stuff is women's sport due to the biological differences and that is already being taken over by transwomen who obviously have an advantage by their male physiology. Do we just have to strive to be the "best" lawyer and sod the tokenism?
My cycle club still has no transexuals in it so women's trophies are still XX reserved.
It does seem like a male ploy to get rid of women only stuff by infiltrating it.

As son as you see the words diversity and inclusion you know they will be following the Stonewall doctrines and acting in the same ways. Any man that says he feels womanly ever or even fluidy can get a prize.

If the Law Society are spouting this twaddle it could be a very interesting conversation with your husband.

I'm a female solicitor (I'm not eligible for the award sadly as I left the profession after children!!) and it's ridiculous. I'll be contacting the Law Society to complain.

DH is a male solicitor ( AFAIK, I haven't asked how he identifies today). Is it worth him writing a letter/email to complain about this? He would for sure.

The comparison with racism is ludicrous. The more appropriate comparison would be if an organisation offering a scholarship or award that's for people of ethnic minorities allowed white people to identify as a person of colour.

Agree entirely

I am a female solicitor, and now I am a mother who wants a family friendly role, my career opportunities are limited. My career horizons are affected in large part because I am a biological female. I am not impressed that the Law Society are taking this approach, it makes a mockery of the reasons woman of the female sex (I can scarcely believe that is a necessary clarification!) have difficulty getting to senior levels of the profession in any numbers and why those that do still have difficulties. If I wanted a highly successful role in many parts of the profession I would have to put my career before my family.

The comparison with racism is ludicrous. The more appropriate comparison would be if an organisation offering a scholarship or award that's for people of ethnic minorities allowed white people to identify as a person of colour.

It doesn't directly affect you unless you are a female solicitor. Are you?

Yes.

There are quite a lot of us on this thread, it seems, and I agree with them all.

I'm a female solicitor (I really am), this just beggars belief. What an absolute joke.

Jon66, the issue here is that cross-dressers and transvestites are now allowed to self-identify as transgender and many of them do so alongside people who actually have gender dysphoria.

I've read things written by people who meet the standard definition of the word "man" and who live as men almost full time and are therefore treated by the world around them as men (with all the privilege that entails) but who do a bit of cross dressing in their rooms at the weekend, and who then claim transgender status on the basis that they feel compelled to do this and therefore consider some part of their brain/soul to be female.

Do you get why women are angry that men like this, who have gone through, are going through and will continue to go through life with every aspect of male privilege, should be allowed to call themselves women on the basis of wearing frilly bras and nickers in their own room at the weekends and therefore benefit from the special arrangements made for women for the purposes of trying to make up for the lack of male privilege women who actually meet the definition of the word woman experience?

Well a quick google brought up these lot

www.awsmanchester.org.uk
awslondon.co.uk. (and regional branches)
www.aawl.org.uk
thecircle.ngo/circle/thelawyerscircle/

And the law society itself has a section for women apparently:

www.lawsociety.org.uk/support-services/practice-management/diversity-inclusion/women-lawyers-division/

I wonder what they think about this?