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Labour party message - views please

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imnolaidee · 16/03/2018 10:02

I don't want to send a reply in anger - and would like the views of people here please. I left the labour party amid the whole AWS trans thing. It wasn't just that to be fair, I am also pissed that a 20 year old man represents me in the party.

The message is below - should I even bother replying? I'm not sure who she is referring to regards 'online abuse' - is that against feminists?

I am sad that I seem to have no political home to go to:

Further to our recent correspondence, I'm just sending you this extract from Ann Black's report of the meeting of the Labour Party's ruling National Executive Committee, held last week. Ann is one of the 9 representatives of Constituency parties on the NEC and is a long-serving and highly respected delegate. As you will see she has clarified that the party's position on this issue has not yet been finally decided and the NEC has re-stated that any abuse and intimidation is unacceptable.

"Finally I’ve had many messages regarding the position of trans women in the party. The NEC will agree a statement on 20 March, and until then I would urge tolerance and respect on all sides. The party is clear that discussion should never take the form of abuse or intimidation towards those with different views, a restraint which sadly has not always been observed, particularly online."

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imnolaidee · 16/03/2018 10:44

Triliteration - I thought I'd made my point. I sent several emails about it in fact, but seems not. I'm coming down on the side of Elsa and I'll "just let it go"

Sad
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Triliteration · 16/03/2018 10:30

And with regard to “online abuse”... this is why I keep well away from characters like Madigan on Twitter as reasonable debate and genuine frustration are both seen as abuse.

I think Madigan enjoys it anyway. Madigan certainly courts the attention. It feeds into the message that Madigan is an underdog who’s continually under attack and thus hailed as heroic.

Triliteration · 16/03/2018 10:24

Sounds like a deliberately unclear message. I have a suspicion they just want to put people off temporarily in the hope it will all go away. There was stuff on Twitter about waiting for the decisions, but it was unfortunately marred by the mention of anti-trans campaigners and was phrased in such a way that suggested the powers that be saw us as bigots who needed to be quiet.

I guess the difficulty is that they have already pretty much taken a stance, so they are currently immune to the madness that the TRAs throw. Thus to them it will look like bigoted women making a whole lot of fuss. There is little else you can usefully say if you’ve already made your point.

imnolaidee · 16/03/2018 10:23

Thanks Christian - I'll check those out

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ChristianPOV · 16/03/2018 10:14

Ignore the Labour party, they don't love women, they love men at the moment. I will be voting for no party at the local elections, Labour have lost my vote.

Where can you put your energy instead?

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