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BBC Question Time Paris Lees

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ILikeBigCrisps · 15/03/2018 23:45

Next week in Leeds! Other guests TBC.....

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IntelligentYetIndecisive · 21/03/2018 19:05

We need our own Paris Lees.

Someone attractive, intelligent, articulate and with an influential lobby behind him/her.

Pratchet · 21/03/2018 19:04

That's four men and one woman on bbc question time. That's disgusting.

Pratchet · 21/03/2018 19:00

By being attractive and working behind the scenes for so long with a massive trans PR machine.

IntelligentYetIndecisive · 21/03/2018 18:57

How does Paris Lees end up on so many TV programmes?

BBC Question Time Paris Lees
KatVonSweet · 21/03/2018 10:05

What annoys me most about Paris Lees is the fact they are held up as a model for young woman. Yet have ridiculous opinions like "loving to cat called". Okay Paris I guess you need to be validated but that's your problem. Get some self esteem ffs
www.vice.com/en_uk/article/zn7b79/enjoying-catcalls-paris-lees-column

BeyondDeadlySiren · 21/03/2018 07:58

According to yesterday's (day before maybe?) daily mail, Paris is 54 Grin

ElenOfTheWays · 21/03/2018 00:40

Found this. Apparently Paris is 31.

howold.co/paris-lees

mirialis · 20/03/2018 22:49

Who knows whether PL's wikipedia page is correct as it's wikipedia but that says PL committed the crime at 16 and started the prison sentence at 18.

I've not looked at anything other than the Guardian interview but in that PL says:

Did GCSES (so must be 16 or 2-3 months off max)
Moved out
Got done for robbery of a client
In PL's words, case dragged on far ages as accomplice refused to come to court and judge was adamant they get sentenced together.

PL probably at least 17 now.

PL does 12 months prison + electronic tag curfew combined.

PL then moves out again.

PL then starts college and does A levels (at least 2 years).

PL then goes to university from which PL graduated 2009. From the timeline PL was probably 20 when they went to university in 2006 latest so I think is 31/32.

I don't really care whether PL is 20 or 30 or 40 tbh but just thought I'd explain why I had figured PL was 32.

Bejazzled · 20/03/2018 20:05

Have the BBC announced the other panellists ?

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 14:56

Absolutely Beyond Grin

BeyondDeadlySiren · 18/03/2018 14:28

Well then we can definitely all self ID as 26 and go to QT

OlennasWimple · 18/03/2018 14:22

Ereshkigal - yes, sorry, 2012 - typing before having my morning cup of tea...

Trumpdump - Peto has almost certainly lied about their age, though to what benefit I can't quite work out. At least with PL it's about image

Trumpdump · 18/03/2018 12:28

I think Heather Peto is lying about their age too... seems to be a trend.

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 12:11

Has P ever mentioned star sign? Grin

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 12:09

So birth year potentially 1987.

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 12:09

Olenna, do you mean 2012? Which would make Paris 30 in October 2017. 31 this year or last depending on birthday.

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 12:06

I wonder if P will reference own age on Thursday?

BeyondDeadlySiren · 18/03/2018 12:03

The legal site I was using to search convictions doesn't go back to pre 2000, so if it was then I'm not going to find it.

OlennasWimple · 18/03/2018 11:57

PL seems to have pulled off the obscurity about true age by being 25 or 26 for a long time - such as being 25 in Oct 2017

OlennasWimple · 18/03/2018 11:54

There were clearly a lot of attempts at enforcing gender stereotypes in PL's childhood and teenage years

Ereshkigal · 17/03/2018 21:26

My googling is obvs a bit shit as well as I just tried via proxy!

My proxy doesn't support google, I've just discovered!

Popchyk · 17/03/2018 20:47

Cross-posted with NotTerf.

Popchyk · 17/03/2018 20:44

Paris Lees did not steal money from his pimp; he and the pimp (or accomplice) both worked together to rob a client.

PL and the other defendant were charged and convicted together.

And the sentence of two years suggests more than simply taking money from someone.

NotTerfNorCis · 17/03/2018 20:39

It was a client, and the robbery must have been fairly violent I suppose to merit a two year sentence. Still, you could argue that any adult paying teenagers for sex is hardly a sympathetic character.

LassWiADelicateAir · 17/03/2018 20:28

So according to him, the victim was a man who exploited young boys... implication being it served him right

To be fair to Paris Lees if there was no violence involved stealing money off the bloke who is pimping you out is hadly the crime of the century. If Paris had been a teenage girl I doubt you would criticise it.

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