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Women's Place meeting, Oxford - 25th April

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TerfyMcTerface · 15/03/2018 21:23

Just spotted on Twitter that Women's Place are holding a meeting in Oxford next month. I don't think the tickets are on sale yet.

Is anyone on here going to go?

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Thanksforthatamazingpost · 25/04/2018 17:06

Here

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/31/edl-english-defence-league-york-mosque

Mohammed does not mention the specific biscuit type but it was custard creams...

Thanksforthatamazingpost · 25/04/2018 17:00

An acquaintAnne of mine, someone I greatly admire, met an EDF demonstration targeting his mosque with custard creams.
It worked so well that some demonstrators even had a tour of the mosque.
Tea was definitely involved too.
Let me see if I can link...

LangCleg · 25/04/2018 16:46

It's about time WPUK took a few of these people to court about the outrageous lies they tell. I'd certainly contribute to a crowdfunder.

Melamin · 25/04/2018 16:32

Wishing you all a good meeting - will be keeping an eye on #WPUK

ScrumpyBetty · 25/04/2018 16:11

Brilliant! I'm definitely going to follow this on Twitter, I want to see a live feed of mumsnetters biscuiting bemused protesters!

R0wantrees · 25/04/2018 15:15

I haven't checked this list (from www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/your-local-mp-part-oxbridge-11398080 )

Oxford University
10 MPs graduated from a single college, Balliol in Oxford.
They include Boris Johnson and his younger brother Jo Johnson, the Tory MP for Orpington.
Of the other eight, five are Conservatives - Robin Walker (Worcester), Damian Green (Ashford), Julian Lewis (New Forest East), Charlotte Leslie (Bristol North West) and Rory Stewart (Penrith and the Border).
Three are Labour, including former leadership candidate Yvette Cooper, as well as Stephen Twigg (Liverpool West Derby) and Helen Hayes (Dulwich and West Norwood).
All of the MPs known to have graduated from Lady Margaret Hall in Oxford (Philip Hollobone, Dominic Raab, Harriet Baldwin, Michael Gove, Helen Whatley and George Hollingbery) are Conservatives.
So too are those from Magdalen: Nick Boles, John Redwood, Dominic Grieve, Alex Chalk, Jeremy Hunt

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 25/04/2018 14:00

"inaccuracies" = lies in my book but I get they're trying not to inflame the situation more...

R0wantrees · 25/04/2018 13:55

Statement from WPUK on attempts to shut down meeting:
womansplaceuk.org/womans-place-uk-oxford-meeting/

"Woman’s Place UK is facing an orchestrated attempt by Oxford University student activists to shut down one of their public meetings in Oxford tonight about changes to transgender laws [1].
WPUK challenge politicians to defend free speech.
Previous meetings, attended by ordinary women, have been targeted with masked activists, harassment, violence and abuse. The women want to meet to discuss questions about proposed changes to transgender laws which they worry could erode legal protections for women and girls. Trans people are welcome at all the meetings, and WPUK have already had two trans speakers on the platform [2] who share the concerns.
The Oxford meeting is now facing a campaign by Oxford University Student Union societies and officers, who have issued a statement [3] containing many inaccuracies and calling on the University to condemn the meeting, and urges students not to attend. We believe this statement defames Woman’s Place UK and our speakers, and we are seeking legal advice.
The students’ call to shut down the WPUK meeting comes days after a 26-year-old “trans activist” was convicted of assault by beating a 60-year old woman at another meeting to discuss transgender laws [4]. Last week, at another feminist meeting in Bristol, masked protesters physically blocked women from entering the meeting [5]. Every meeting WPUK has organised has faced a campaign of harassment [6].... " continues

SwearyGodPervert · 25/04/2018 13:48

We have supplies GrinBiscuit

Women's Place meeting,  Oxford - 25th April
Wanderabout · 25/04/2018 13:30

Lollipops are good at stopping mouths.

Good for toddlers, but not so much for encouraging respectful debate.

You can have a good natter over a shared packet of biscuits though.

drspouse · 25/04/2018 13:24

Lollipops are good at stopping mouths. Get 100s of Chupa Chups, unwrap, and put into any open mouth.
(If wearing a mask, put into a hand. But unwrapped so they have to eat or it will stick to them. Maybe get your toddler to pre-suck?)

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 25/04/2018 13:13

changey sorry to hear you're in the same situation but the baby's safety has to come first......and they know we feel that way and that is one of the ways they silence us - the Bristol tactics are of course going to mean women are too scared to bring babies.

Having said that, one of the things I find frustrating is how women who are asking "What about the protections for women and girls?" are painted as a small fringe group. For every one woman attending a meeting there are probably lots who dont even apply for tickets because of fears over safety, caring responsibilities etc. I'm happy to pm my details to a regular attending the meeting if they want to bring some small evidence of this to the meeting.....

R0wantrees · 25/04/2018 12:58

In response to the Oxford University statement on their meeting today womans place have tweeted this:

WomansPlaceUk @ womansplaceuk
You will hear a lot of things about us. Some of them are truly terrible. The good news they are simply not true. We are a campaign dedicated to ensuring women's voices are heard and their rights are upheld in any changes to the law.

Its just had a response from Brian Paddick:

Brian Paddick @ brianpaddick
'I’ve only met two representatives from @WomansPlaceUK in a meeting that included 3 trans women & an academic. Nothing said in that meeting made me think they were anti trans rights. Participants didn’t agree on everything but it was cordial. Listening doesn’t hurt or corrupt.'

FlorenceLyons · 25/04/2018 12:54

I'm coming, with my teenage daughter. Bit worried about protestors, but won't get there in time to meet up beforehand.

Very much looking forward to meeting some of you!

BeUpStanding · 25/04/2018 12:22

I also dithered too long and am on the waitlist for a ticket.

Stay calm and enjoy the event everyone Biscuit

cromeyellow0 · 25/04/2018 12:15

If you have a ticket but can't come, it would be worth contacting the organisers in case they can give the space to someone on the waiting list

R0wantrees · 25/04/2018 12:09

I have a ticket and was hoping to come but commitments at home mean this sadly isn't possible.
I will follow the meeting on Twitter #WPUK & hope all goes well.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 25/04/2018 12:05

I'm up for biscuit giving. Will get some en route.

Wanderabout · 25/04/2018 10:23

Chat over a biscuit and a cuppa is always a good idea.

MargeH · 25/04/2018 10:22

Keep calm ...and hand out biscuits.

Brilliant idea.

ReluctantCamper · 25/04/2018 10:18

I love the idea of a real life biscuiting Biscuit

changeypants · 25/04/2018 10:18

one day i imagine i will be faced with the prospect of helping fund children through university. i don't know how i'll feel about that if the students unions are still spouting so much misogyny. is there any uni not affected? then again when i was at university i payed no attention to my students union whatsoever. i thought i was waaaaaay cooler than that.....

Tanith · 25/04/2018 10:13

I wonder does the University know this group are presuming to speak on their behalf?

SwearyGodPervert · 25/04/2018 10:10

It's such a brilliant plan - if they don't turn up or rudely refuse our offerings we have snacks for the meeting Grin

MsMcWoodle · 25/04/2018 10:05

Stay safe everyone. Don't rise to anything.