Leanne Wood has responded to her tweet

Squirrels - yes I'm very hopeful this will break through mainstream - people like Leanne will be history then - wrong side of argument and no-one will trust her again. The woman's a fool.

I didn't get this issue until recently - there's a country full of 'me's in the dark - pressure from them will turn this - so numbers are important and sharing with all types of people.

One issue politics suits me this time - whoever stands up against this will have my vote.

Oldcrone - that is exactly how I fell - honestly bewildered as to where to start, sadly.

Everything she says is a platitude and meaningless.

If you change what a word means -woman does not mean woman - then all words eventually become meaningless. None of what she says makes any sense, gibberish is too good a word for it.

@XXHelenaXX I know, I know.

But I Can. Not.
Not on social media.

I could create a fake profile - but that's crappy.
Or I could post as me and enter a world of most-likely unemployment.

Or, I can do what I can in the meantime until there is a significant breakthrough into mainstream - which I am hopeful and confident of.

Tbh, the more prominent people post stuff such as "outdated ideas of biology" then the easier it will get.

I may get brave yet and retweet Hadley Freeman...

Likewise Crone it deserves a dissertation on what's wrong with every bloody paragraph.

The enemy is narrow gender norms which limit our children’s expectations and lead to bullying and abuse of anyone who’s seen as different.
But the solution is not to tell children that they need to change sex (and that such a thing is possible) if they play with the 'wrong' toys. Feminism = breaking down gender norms. Trans = setting gender in stone. How can she not see that?
I really want to write a comment on that article, but there's so much wrong with it I don't know where to start.

I'm disappointed in you. There's nothing ooooo about you at all sadly

Circle - this article: www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/ totally debunks the stats (it's Study 2)

Leanne - if you're reading, I'm very disappointed in yoou

Bloody hell, the comments on that article...

"Yn union! Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi, Leanne.
Bigots, get out of Plaid with your retrograde superstitions."

Biology now, is apparently a superstition.

I now have no-one to vote for. 😐
Leanne isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but up until now I'd supported Plaid.

Btw another voice sticking her head above the parapet and fighting this utter madness on Twitter is Canadian feminist Meghan Murphy [https://twitter.com/MeghanEMurphy] - please give her a follow if you're on there.

Aw come on, ONE person (from here?) has posted! Yet this thread has 41 messages.

www.leannerhondda.wales/inclusive_feminism

Utterly gobsmacked by this. Im beginning to feel like I'm living in a parallel universe with this trans nonsense.

From Orwell's 1984:

"You are a slow learner Winston"
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”

#TwoAndTwoAreFour

“he enemy is narrow gender norms which limit our children’s expectations and lead to bullying and abuse of anyone who’s seen as different“

Yes to this. I read ine if those fb clickbait things today- baby had external male appearing genitalia, but was tested at 6 weeks old and found to have an androgen disorder so is genetically female.

The parents response? Not oh crap my baby has a medical disorder, may need surgery and lifelong treatment, and how best do we deal with this psychologically?

No. It was “after out shock of finding out we had to go and buy different clothes and different toys”. For a 6 week old.

If services were to refuse access to all trans women and non-binary people, where are they supposed to go when they face abuse, violence or homelessness? says Leanne.

Here's a thought Leanne - why don't trans and non-binary people start their own refuges? You know, like women did for women.

I'm getting pissed off with the accepted notion that women are on earth to save men getting off their arses and doing something for themselves.

I don't know anything about Welsh politics, so I looked LW up on Wiki.

LW - you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

The enemy is narrow gender norms which limit our children’s expectations and lead to bullying and abuse of anyone who’s seen as different.

How can she get it so right and yet so wrong at the same time?

I do admire the people patiently explaining to her in very small words she might just get a grip on. Its a good thing I don't have Twitter as 'FFS you stupid woman' is not helpful and all I'm capable of reading that.

How the hell do people this stupid and utterly irresponsible get into positions of power? All this 'biology is complicated these days' bullshit, no it bloody isn't Leanne. If you want to breed dogs you find one with a penis and balls and one with a vagina, if you're taken into A&E unconscious it will take them SECONDS to identify your biological sex beyond all doubt. What you're bogged down in is utter twattery love.

Has anyone clicked on the link in her response “challenging hateful comments”
The comment is from a UKIP AM and he is not allowed to rejoin the Sennedd until he apologises.

Fucking hell. I seriously had no idea that so many politicians were so thick.

I just can't even.

How have we got to a place where 'gender identity', a feeling, is the objective, universal truth that we should be basing our laws around, and biological sex is the 'here nor there'?

I think it's actually quite frightening the lengths that people will go, the extent to which they are willing to abandon all critical thinking, the way in which they will ignore what is starting them straight in the face, in order to appear 'progeessive'.

Yay for Hadley Freeman!

These people are pulling up the ladder and I'd like to know whats coming that they are so afraid of.

Oh Leanne.

Ugh I see Little Owen has tweeted his approval. Another dim handmaiden capitulating to the menz, hurray!

Urgh. I’ve had dealings with LW for years. I wouldn’t piss on her if she was on fire.