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Ricky Gervais ‘Humanity’ and trans

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BRHaunton · 14/03/2018 00:17

Not really a fan but DS likes him so we’ve just sat and watched his new stand up show on Netflix.

I was pulling this face Shock

He certainly isn’t pulling any punches on the subject of dead naming, being forced to believe ‘transwomen are women’ or Caitlin Jenner etc.

He’s got to be getting a lot of abuse for that surely?!

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EllieMe · 14/03/2018 15:18

Why? Because it was 7 years ago, he apologised and people are still droning on about it. Tedious. Like no one else ever said something daft.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/03/2018 15:15

Let's pretend he isn't a disablist twat....

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/03/2018 15:14

And it's about time people shut up about
Why, surely that is hypocrisy?

EllieMe · 14/03/2018 15:06

And it's about time people shut up about it.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/03/2018 15:04

The "mong" remark was 7 years ago and he apologised.
And?
His whole trans bit involved not pretending the past didn't happen.

BeyondDeadlySiren · 14/03/2018 14:37

I loved the voice! The Jenner voice!! 😂😂

bowieforever · 14/03/2018 14:34

If I say I am a chimp, I am a chimp SmileSmile he nailed it SmileSmile

EllieMe · 14/03/2018 14:10

The "mong" remark was 7 years ago and he apologised.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/03/2018 13:36

Disablist twat

FencingFightingTorture35 · 14/03/2018 13:31

Well it’s good that he’s on side with the trans narrative but given his shows are renowned for things like using the word “mong” and his awful fat shaming jokes I think it’s safe to say he’s not especially feminist and that his jokes would be seen as courting controversy rather than anything else.

^ this

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/03/2018 12:08

Well it’s good that he’s on side with the trans narrative but given his shows are renowned for things like using the word “mong” and his awful fat shaming jokes I think it’s safe to say he’s not especially feminist and that his jokes would be seen as courting controversy rather than anything else.

EllieMe · 14/03/2018 11:54

I didn't like him until now. Now I'm in love.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 14/03/2018 11:45

Comedian does what they've done since time immemorial & lays bare a ridiculous situation.

Women cheer! 'Thank fuck, someone else who gets it and isn't scared of vocalising the absurdity of it - maybe this will be the realisation moment for loads of others'.

Lefty, right-on type brocialist laughs & agrees - then realises he is not adequately virtue-signalling the current in-vogue dogma - so hastily proceeds to mansplain how 'awful the subtext' is.

Quelle surprise 🙄

CAAKE · 14/03/2018 11:32

Funny how he didn't say a critical word and yet ripped the whole issue open for the farce that it is.

Yes exactly.

athingthateveryoneneeds · 14/03/2018 11:02

I just watched it as well. Funny how he didn't say a critical word and yet ripped the whole issue open for the farce that it is.

BlooperReel · 14/03/2018 10:41

Watching now, so glad he has done this, highlights the absurdity of it

BeyondDeadlySiren · 14/03/2018 10:19

It's certainly worth drawing his attention to it (and that of his followers who I think would generally agree), and to Posies case too.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 14/03/2018 10:17

I wonder if he would retweet the petition?

BeyondDeadlySiren · 14/03/2018 10:12

In fact, I may watch again later and count Grin

BeyondDeadlySiren · 14/03/2018 10:10

Anyone who hasn't seen it, it's worth watching. He says "Bruce Jenner" about 100 times in the space of about five minutes...

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 14/03/2018 10:07

Is he a decent guy? It sounds like the OP says he was taking the anti-TRA POV, is he a feminist ally? Sorry to ask, it's kind of a tough question to google.

I don't think he'd go for the term "feminist ally". But decent guy, yes.

dorothyparka · 14/03/2018 09:11

It's interesting that Brian Logan felt compelled to write a follow-up piece to that 4 star review after the error of finding RG's trans material funny was pointed out to him on TwitterHmm
www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/mar/14/ricky-gervais-transgender-jokes-caitlyn-jenner-transphobia

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BRHaunton · 14/03/2018 08:56

I also appreciated the bit where he claims he is a chimp just because he identifies as one and earns the audience they must believe it, never dead and him, and from now on must refer to him as ‘Bobo’. And how he has to ‘live as a chimp’ for a year.

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holycheeseplant · 14/03/2018 08:36

Well, he's certainly always been a keen observer of stereotypes.

In all honesty I don't think the general public ever think trans women are women. Caitlin Jenner only became famous to me due to the sex change. No one can ignore that. And I didn't know about the car crash. Rather a distraction to become a 'woman'...

TanteRose · 14/03/2018 08:17

Lucy Mangan's review was also good

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/mar/13/ricky-gervais-humanity-review-netflix-special-sees-master-of-provocation-settle-old-scores

Most of Gervais’s negative aspects – his maddening contradictions, inconsistencies and incendiary aspects – are to be found in Humanity’s opening segment, during which he dissects the Caitlin Jenner joke he cracked during the 2016 Golden Globes. It caused the kind of online-and-then-general-media storm that Gervais affects to and possibly quite genuinely does despise, even as he thrives upon them. He was accused of transphobia for “deadnaming” (ie using the name she used before transitioning) and for referring to her involvement in a fatal car crash as “not doing much for women drivers”. The former was a basic gag that clearly punched down and served no greater purpose than to create a memorable opening to an awards ceremony. The second was a much better crafted thing that, as he smugly explains, played with stereotypes and drew attention to the fact that Jenner was widely thought to have benefited from her celebrity status in a case where someone had been killed

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