The TERF Awards 2018.

Whoo!!! Hi Peachyogurt! Another fangirl here... You & your videos are excellent

Hi Peachyoghurt. This video led me to your others. Brilliant stuff. My fave so far has to be the non-binary porn one. Lmao. Really, I was crying. 😂😂.

As far as the socialisation thing. I must have missed that along with the housework gene. .

I've never had a problem with laughing at men being ridiculous. If they don't want to be laughed at, then they shouldn't be ridiculous.

Hi Peachyogurt I wish I knew you in RL Keep up the excellent work

I luffs you Peach!

Well, hello peachyoghurt

Today has been a learning day, thanks!

Wow Peach in the flesh so to speak.

Can I unashamedly say I luffs you?!

Hi peachyoughurt! Thanks for your videos I have only just discovered them. The one about the bicycle is 👌 and your delivery is brilliant!

Waves to PeachYoghurt.

Hi! Thought it was a great video.

You were instrumental in trans peaking me months ago through your excellent videos. Please keep up the good work.

Hey wims! :)

Glad some of you like the video.
I'm not mocking anyone, I'm celebrating them. Because they do the work for us in the end.

Stefonknee really advised members of the Canadian government. One even said that Stef was a good friend.
Anybody who calls him ill might as well call them all ill. Because none of these guys are mentally stable.

*Can I just say, in the gentlest and most empathetic way possible, that it is possible to move past this socialization, and that doing so is one of the most freeing things that a woman can do for herself.

It's OK not to feel bad, honest. Men's egos and dignity and feelings aren't more important than women's, and learning how to say so and mean it is vital to feminism in all kinds of different ways.*

Agree 100%

I totally agree with Redtoothbrush. I know Lily's a nob. Objectively, he is a nob, there's no denying it. But the description of him as a useful idiot, is spot on. In his own right he's an angry, tantruming young person and in time he will become an angry, tantruming middle-aged person whom everyone has stopped listening to because he just isn't that bright. Some political failures, like Peter Tatchell, are still being paid attention because he's intelligent, whatever you think of him and so he's got stuff to say. Lily OTOH doesn't have a hope in hell of being able to carve out any sort of media career once the Labour Party have dumped him.

Re the socialisation, I know it's possible to get past it, I just haven't managed it. I do cringe for these blokes, I do pity them. I don't know if I'd ever want to get past it in the sense of still being able to feel compassion for complete dingbats, while objectively recognising that they are in fact complete dingbats and are not entitled to my compassion - i give it as an undeserved (and in this case unwanted) gift.

But also recognising that I have no right to require any other women to give them her compassion, because men are not entitled to our compassion or sympathy or care.

And also recognising that any feelings of compassion, must not be allowed to take priority over my actual rights as a woman - my compassion is not going to lead me into the path of pandering to these men. So my compassion for them is tempered by the knowledge that they are dangerous to me; they are threatening my rights and self-defence needs to be prioritised over compassion.

Exactly. Is Stefoknee mentally ill or has he just allowed his fetish to take over this life? Doesn't matter in that he's made the lives of his ex and his children miserable either way, doesn't make any difference in terms of how physically threatening he would be to encounter in a bathroom, locker room etc.

Good grief redtoothbrush Are you my DH? we had exactly that conversation last week - nowhere near as eruditely, blame the red wine - but we did question the depth and breadth of Lily's political knowledge, as well as the apparent utter lack of nous.

We wondered where the rest of the Madigan family were, why no one seems to have stepped in and given Lily some better advice? For that we did/do feel a bit sorry for Lily, but yes, Lily needs to take full ownership for what Lily does and says.

The other thing to remember, aside from socialisation, is that it's not necessarily "bad OR mad". Very often it's "bad AND mad".

That somebody is mentally unwell and/or highly vulnerable does not mean they can't also be malign and pose a risk to others.

And, if a male person is posing a risk to women and girls by not accepting boundaries and consent, it doesn't matter if they are vulnerable and mentally unwell. The priority needs to be the protection of women and girls.

Who was the 'dick suckingest lesbian' I have ever met?

I found that truly disturbing...

RedToothBrush that's one of the best posts I've read on this issue and sums up my feelings about LM perfectly. Thank you

Also I'm glad the video was posted because I've mostly seen Shon Faye quoted in text form, and a live action version really brings home what an angry person this is and how that influences the things that Shon says. Enraged by the idea of women disobeying him, basically.

Yeah, that. I very much doubt that India has ever done or said anything for selfless reasons.

Although India Willoughby was hideous on CBB, I think she's partially on our side.

I disagree. IW is against sex-neutral changing rooms because they take away from IW's validiation as a woman - it has nothing to so with supporting women as a group.

I never had that kind of socialisation either; if anything I've had to tone myself down to behave like a "normal woman" . I feel no natural instinct to be nice to these creeps because they are horrible and a real threat to women's rights.

To be clear - I can remember other adults who weren't my parents attempting to install that sort of "you can't say that, it will hurt that boy's feelings/pride" reflex when I was young, it just didn't take because my parents weren't doing it too. Possibly I was just an exceptionally stubborn child, but I think my mother responding to the attempts of other adults to socialize me that way with eye rolling and sarcasm was a big part of why it didn't stick.

the upshot is that I find it the most fascinating, and wildly infuriating, aspects of most of the threads on here.

For me too. It took a while to figure out why other women were reacting to things the way they were, but once you do see it it's obvious. I'm actually glad that my parents somehow managed not to pass on that particular aspect of how girls are meant to act when I was a kid, but I agree that it can cause a lot of pushback. Still think I'm better off without it looking at the big picture though, and I've seen friends work their way through it and come out the other side caring a lot less.

Can I just say, in the gentlest and most empathetic way possible, that it is possible to move past this socialization, and that doing so is one of the most freeing things that a woman can do for herself.

I have to say, I've never really personally understood this aspect of female socialisation. There are a couple of reasons for this but the upshot is that I find it the most fascinating, and wildly infuriating, aspects of most of the threads on here.

I would also say that lacking in it has caused me real problems in real life too and I've been punished and bullied for not being the right sort of women or responding apppropriately "as a woman" - generally not doing 'woman' properly... So I can imagine that it's not easy to break out of it if you do do it.

Not really of any relevance to anything but I think about it everytime I read about women putting up with shit becaise of this socialisation to be nice.

"My socialisation makes me cringe a bit at this. Seeing a bunch of awful people up there altogether, being mocked by a woman, is really, really uncomfortable. And yet, it's so politically important, that it is allowed to happen. That we be allowed to point and laugh. That we use the one weapon we have against men, that they hate us using the most.

The number of times women mocking men, has been presented as justification for those men murdering those laughing women, is so many that it cannot be counted. Literature, film, song, media, is full of the story that women mocking men deserve to be murdered by those men to punish them - that men's ego and dignity is so important, so sacred, that women must pay with their lives for attacking it.

I think that's why I feel so bad when I look at that video. The female socialised part of me winces at the cruelty of laughing at men. All the cultural baggage of watching that, elicits my pity for them and I feel a bit nonplussed about it all."

Can I just say, in the gentlest and most empathetic way possible, that it is possible to move past this socialization, and that doing so is one of the most freeing things that a woman can do for herself.

It's OK not to feel bad, honest. Men's egos and dignity and feelings aren't more important than women's, and learning how to say so and mean it is vital to feminism in all kinds of different ways.

Great Video!
I ♡ PY

I really couldn't decide who the winner should be, they have all done such a superb job at peak transing the population... but I guess the right man won!