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Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids

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HereComesTheSun1 · 11/03/2018 00:18

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tough-millwall-cave-in-to-transgender-bullies-nltnkpv3d

Relevant section:

Meanwhile, a woman who criticised a transgender charity on Twitter has been questioned under caution by police and told she will be arrested if she tries to leave the country. Kellie-Jay Keen- Minshull accused the group Mermaids of “suppressing free speech”.

She had accused Mermaids, which calls for children to be allowed irreversible sex-change treatment the NHS currently prohibits, of “prey[ing]” on gay teenagers and of “mass child abuse”. Mermaids declined to comment.

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SuitedandBooted · 12/03/2018 19:16

I was thinking of contacting this lot. There are separate ones for different areas of the country

www.gov.uk/police-and-crime-commissioners

According to the website you can;

^Contact your police and crime commissioner (PCC) to make a suggestion or a complaint about how your local area is policed.

PCCs are elected to make sure that local police meet the needs of the community. Contact your local PCC about:

how your area is policed
the police budget
the amount of Council Tax charged for the police
the information you get about what the local police are doing^ Hmm

Was it West Yorkshire Police that went after Posie?

therealposieparker · 12/03/2018 19:14

thanks xx

Datun · 12/03/2018 19:08

@therealposieparker

There is a woman who has donated who frames herself as a trans-widow.

She has asked to be put in touch with others in her situation.

She may well already be on here, but just in case she isn't, could you put her in touch with the thread linked below.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101834-trans-widows-escape-committee

Thanks.

BoreOfWhabylon · 12/03/2018 19:00

This made me laugh Grin

mobile.twitter.com/smanningsw/status/972801661759643648

Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids
TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 12/03/2018 18:56

If you bother to listen, Mermaids has been, and will always be a great support network for trans people.

Mermaids is a pressure group. We have had more than one parent on here with experience with them, we even had Mermaids staff come on during a conversation about them and doxx the member involved, on here, put their details in AIBU (I believe it was) for everyone to see, just because the member was discussing what a negative experience it had been. A judge has also ruled that they nee4d to stay away from a child due to their behaviour.

invisibleoldwoman · 12/03/2018 18:53

Donated

whitehandledkitchenknife · 12/03/2018 18:47

Donated.

therealposieparker · 12/03/2018 18:35

I'm slightly blown away actually....

I'm really touched.

WooWooSister · 12/03/2018 18:26

Myself and DH have donated. I peaktransed him last year and he's appalled at what Posie's case means for free speech.
Posie thanks so much for being brave enough to front this challenge Flowers and I hope the CPS don't leave this hanging over you for too long.

Akire · 12/03/2018 18:11

Donated- thanks for info on how to change names. Comes to something when apparently hate speech is stating a physical fact. If judge dosnt throw it out of court and give everyone kick up ass I will eat my hat.

Flooffloof · 12/03/2018 17:28

CisPink
I will come back later, I have to go to work right now, and find an email address.
And maybe post what ever I send.

TERFousBreakdown · 12/03/2018 17:26

Donated & shared!

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Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids
Grasswoods · 12/03/2018 17:25

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth

The poster you referred to on Sunday in this thread is still here but too worried to post again on the subject. They are a friend of mine. I too have grave concerns about Mermaids. The poster you referred to was relieved that the concerns they raised about the child in the court case were finally confirmed. They of course received no recognition that their concerns were justified and no apology from Mermaids for the way they were treated when raising those concerns.

GenderApostate · 12/03/2018 17:23

I’ve donated, it’s the least we can do, it could have been anyone of us instead.

I’m wondering how/why they picked her instead of 100+ other Women, myself included 👁

SuitedandBooted · 12/03/2018 17:14

bump

SuitedandBooted · 12/03/2018 17:13

And if you are on Twitter, please retweet

Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids
CisPinkHoodie · 12/03/2018 17:10

Floof

I think they'd be interested in it from the POV of police conflict of interest too

SuitedandBooted · 12/03/2018 17:10

Legal Fund for Posie here

www.crowdfunder.co.uk/fighting-for-free-speech-in-uk/

May already have been posted, but thought I would add it anyway

Have also forwarded the details of Posie's "chat" with the police to my MP, asking for his opinion on the use of police resources....

BeyondDeadlySiren · 12/03/2018 17:03

Elen, it certainly made me think jazz has an impression that sex is “lying back and thinking of America”!

TERFragetteCity · 12/03/2018 17:02

10% already. Excellent.

Atthebottomofthesea · 12/03/2018 17:00

I have been reading since yesterday, and can't find a way to sum up how I feel. But this is a worrying development not just in regards to the trans agenda but on a much wider scale. Someone says something you disagree with, report them to the police. However TA threats against women seem good to go.

aRespectableBureaudeChange · 12/03/2018 16:53

Worked it out - well done Posie, I've put a message on rather than choose anonymous setting in the end.

Flooffloof · 12/03/2018 16:50

I have checked the private eye copy I have still, but it's the previous one that has a "gender realignment" cartoon. 1462 in case anyone has it.
This copy has a mention of mumsnet but it's not self Id.
I only buy it occasionally but am most happy to email in and see if I can get the eye interested.

Datun · 12/03/2018 16:21

She has been interviewed under caution. No charges have been brought, as yet. She is waiting to hear.

biscuitmillionaire · 12/03/2018 16:16

So was Posie charged, and if so, with what?

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