Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids

I know misogyny isn't a hate crime but between us someone must have received some abusive racist/lesbophobic tweets that would fall under the legislation. It would be interesting to report a selection and see what response we get total disinterest

Popchyk Another dubious decision in West Yorks.

Bangkok, Andrew Gilligan was the one who wrote the article on MESMAC.

I've just looked at his Twitter and he is saying "Brian Mynott, a local therapist who works with abuse victims, says he has spoken to a further three people who claimed to have been sexually harassed or asked for sex by Mesmac staff when they went there for help."

and...

"As early as 2009 at least three Mesmac trustees, including the then chair, resigned "en bloc" because of their concern about its "unacceptable" conduct policy and lack of professionalism, one of those who resigned says. (Mesmac denies they resigned over the conduct policy.)"

Gilligan has been separately critical of Mermaids. But I think he sees it as two separate bodies acting unprofessionally, but independently of each other. Which may be the case.

One thing, though. Gilligan is not a man who is going to let this go.

I won't speculate on MESMAC again on this thread, don't want to derail from Posie's situation. I will keep an eye on the press and start a new thread if any more information comes to light.

for Posie.

Women get rape and violence threat via twitter all the damn time and no one cares. People get racial abuse every day.
Why are they making such a drama out of this?

I wonder how quickly the same West Yorkshire Police show up on doorsteps of transactivists (or anyone) who routinely use homophobic language to abuse and accuse lesbians of being bigoted, "terfs" who should be punched, raped, and or otherwise tortured, and die in various painful ways.

spoiler alert No I don't. I don't wonder at all.

What about parents who try to get their underage kids married abroad? I feel like I've read about their being legal ways to address that, but may be remembering incorrectly.

You’d think so Yippee. Certainly if this was a girl taken out for FGM the parents would be prosecuted.

I'd like to know how that part works too. If the surgery was illegal at that age, and so were the drugs a few years earlier, could Green not be prosecuted for that? Surely you can't just work around the various laws that govern what's legal for kids by a certain age by just taking the child abroad?

I had no idea about all those Yorkshire connections @Popchyk ...surely someone like Andre Giligan or James Kirkup could pick up on this & do a big expose?

It's really terrifying how much power these people have.

Instead of trawling the Tweets put key words into the search bar.

Donated and messaged with real name.

In same position as Posie, sahm, no career.

Only thing to lose is looks if I get punched when supporting her if necessary when/if this goes to court.

Got over that when it was supposed to be someone who loved me, so would wear it with pride in this instance.

Yes, and they are not blasé at all about investigating online comments made to the mother of a transgender adult.

They take that very seriously and allocate time and resources to it.

Question is.

Why?

Popchyk, don't forget that historically police in Yorkshire also have a blasé attitutde to Peter Sutcliffes victims, the ignoring of the Rotherham abuse, and the Hillsborough cover up.

Yes, I can’t actually scroll back far enough to find the tweets, iPad freezes.

I understand why some people are saying that having therapy is akin to gay aversion therapy.
However here’s how I see it:
Child comes out as gay. They have same sex relationships and are happy. Win
Child comes out as gay. They have some same sex relationships but realise it isn’t right and ends up in a straight relationship. They consider themselves as bi. No lasting problems other than some unhappy relationships.
Child comes out as gay in the past. They are sent to gay aversion therapy. They are unhappy and unable to live the life they want. Long term problems.

Child comes out as trans. They have therapy they talk through their problems and live their life in a way that makes them happy possibly with surgery but they can make that choice as an informed adult. Win.
Child comes out as trans. They are taken for hormone therapy and surgery without and support. They get railroaded into procedures without the full help to make an informed choice. They are left with surgical altered genitals and are left infertile.

The Yorkshire connection. Some thoughts.

• Mermaids is based in Leeds.
• MESMAC (sexual health and survivors of sexual abuse charity) have been in the news recently for things that happened in Leeds. The Yorkshire branch were the ones who drafted the procedures stating that staff can have sex with clients. Paedophile Heathcliff Bowen also worked at MESMAC Leeds until his conviction recently.
• West Yorkshire Police give funds to MESMAC.
• West Yorkshire Police received two reports from Leeds Council about MESMAC. WYP did nothing.
• Trans Leeds (support group for transgender people) and Action for Trans Health (yes, that lot) use MESMAC offices in Leeds for meetings.
• Yorkshire Ambulance Service were the ones who invited Karen Jones (transgender killer and sex offender) to educate staff.
• Susie Green contacts WYP about comments made online by Posie, and WYP immediately leap into action. This despite not responding to complaints of wrongdoing at MESMAC.

Helluva coincidence that all of this is happening in one small part of the country.

It reads very much like a network to me.

Donated

They should be done for wasting police time.

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This is going to be bigger than the Kids Company scandal when it blows. And it will.

Puppies and sweets. Police and social services involved if parents or teachers don't take the trans-ideology advice. Don't forget, the police were also called by Mermaids to a school for misgendering by a teacher.

This is getting seriously out of hand.

Woowoo, yes of course, you are quite right, sorry. I didn’t think about that. I will trawl.

But it was castration. The boy had his testicles removed because she took him outside of the reach of UK law and paid for an orchiectomy.

Susie Green sounds to me as if she's desperately trying to keep herself in a bubble of denial about what she's really gone and done to her kid.

Frank considering this is an active police matter, it may not be appropriate for someone to compile a tweet list for you.