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Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids

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HereComesTheSun1 · 11/03/2018 00:18

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tough-millwall-cave-in-to-transgender-bullies-nltnkpv3d

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Meanwhile, a woman who criticised a transgender charity on Twitter has been questioned under caution by police and told she will be arrested if she tries to leave the country. Kellie-Jay Keen- Minshull accused the group Mermaids of “suppressing free speech”.

She had accused Mermaids, which calls for children to be allowed irreversible sex-change treatment the NHS currently prohibits, of “prey[ing]” on gay teenagers and of “mass child abuse”. Mermaids declined to comment.

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Bangkokhilton · 13/03/2018 16:48

Thanks @MotheringShites and @BeyondDeadlySiren I've just listened and read Posie's blog about it. Here's the link to the blog for anyone else looking for it: medium.com/@ThePosieParker/james-obrien-misogyny-on-the-left-d9a320b840df

Another leftie man to feel disappointed in 😕

@therealposieparker did he respond to your letter to him? He should feel ashamed of himself. I wonder what it will take for him to reach Peak Trans or if he will simply dig his heels in & refuse to admit he got it wrong this time.

Datun · 13/03/2018 16:40

therealposieparker

You have been deliberately targeted because you have attempted to use your voice.

You haven't said anything that millions of women aren't saying.

But because you are credible and can get your point across you have to be shut up.

It's a warning shot, across the bows, to all women.

Our opinion must not be heard.

Their complacency makes them unaware that the more they try to shut people up, the more they will want to know what's going on.

You've reached half your target in what, a day?

It's a real mistake to tell women to shut the fuck up about their own rights.

BeyondDeadlySiren · 13/03/2018 16:02
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MotheringShites · 13/03/2018 15:59

Posie linked to her own blog on page 21 of this thread. It’s all there if you scroll down a bit.

Bangkokhilton · 13/03/2018 15:45

@MotheringShites do you have a link to the interaction Posie had with O'Brien (or her response?). I would be interested to hear/read this.

SweetGrapes · 13/03/2018 15:44

Who will play you when this whole thing is made into a film? I was thinking this about JJ the other day!

We need a whole new thread on the cast of this fast paced, action filled, ball busting blockbuster Grin

SweetGrapes · 13/03/2018 15:41

Donated to the crowdfunder for Posie Parker.

It's absolutely horrendous you have been targeted like this. Hope you can get a shit hot legal team! Flowers

therealposieparker · 13/03/2018 15:37

Mothering.... yes it's me.!!

hackmum · 13/03/2018 15:33

"Posie you are incredibly brave and an inspiration. I’ve only just twigged that you are also Kellie from Wiltshire who was treated so appallingly by the aptly named, O’Brien on LBC."

I didn't realise that either. That was so upsetting.

This is really starting to feel like a war on women.

Juliammea · 13/03/2018 15:25

You can contribute to Kellie-Jay's fighting fund here:
www.crowdfunder.co.uk/fighting-for-free-speech-in-uk

MotheringShites · 13/03/2018 15:21

Delurking to offer support. Posie you are incredibly brave and an inspiration. I’ve only just twigged that you are also Kellie from Wiltshire who was treated so appallingly by the aptly named, O’Brien on LBC. Your written response to that encounter was so moving and powerful. Keep fighting.

OldCrone · 13/03/2018 14:56

@TimbuktuTimbuktu
Have you received threats of violence? If so, you should report them to the police who should take action. The police only got involved in Posie's case because Mermaids reported her.

CPS Guidance
Part A: Offence types
This Part addresses the offences commonly committed via social media and identifies four distinct categories of offences.
Category 1
Communications which may constitute threats of violence to the person or damage to property.

Popchyk · 13/03/2018 13:52

Anything we can do to cheer you up, Posie?

Who will play you when this whole thing is made into a film?

I'm thinking Carey Mulligan or Julianne Moore.

Probably Denzel Washington as your older, well-spoken solicitor.

Kokeshi123 · 13/03/2018 12:32

Donation made. First crowd funding donation I've ever made! How exciting. It feels good to actually be doing something.

aRespectableBureaudeChange · 13/03/2018 12:16

Lang - my thoughts too, although not my place to suggest - obviously have to check with contributors I guess - but I would support that.

LangCleg · 13/03/2018 12:11

Posie - even if you are not charged, you should use the money to make legally-backed complaints to the police (and, perhaps, to Twitter).

BeyondDeadlySiren · 13/03/2018 11:55

Wow posie, the speed your fund is growing is amazing! Shock

We got your back ✊

PilarTernera · 13/03/2018 11:49

Flowers posie

therealposieparker · 13/03/2018 11:03

Again, I'm overwhelmed. I mean, I knew people cared about this stuff but I didn't realise how much x

medium.com/@ThePosieParker/fighting-for-free-speech-the-ordinary-woman-9c262e61d0e3

bellabelly · 13/03/2018 10:37

I've just donated to the crowd funder here. I wish it could have been more @posieparker - you're so brave for not backing down and saying 2+2 = 5 after all.

hackmum · 13/03/2018 10:33

Sitting: "Presumably if the child is really a girl then the surgery is FGM and thus there a some legal issues for the parent?"

Your logic is impeccable. Grin

But even without the debate about whether the child is male or female, then surely it's illegal to perform mutilating surgery on your child? If it would be illegal to have it done in the UK, then wouldn't it be equally illegal to take your child to another country to be done? Just as it would be if you were a parent who took your child to another country to have FGM.

Why hasn't the CEO of Mermaids been prosecuted for child abuse?

DontCisgenderMe · 13/03/2018 10:24

Popchyk, dubious friendships and ignoring reports of abuse are nothing new for the West Yorkshire police. They were also big mates with Jimmy Savile.

OldCrone · 13/03/2018 10:12

SimonBridges
Women get rape and violence threat via twitter all the damn time and no one cares.
What is the response from the police when you report these?

Sittinonthefloor · 13/03/2018 10:08

Presumably if the child is really a girl then the surgery is FGM and thus there a some legal issues for the parent? FGM is horrific, castration is genital mutilation + removal of testes and fertility.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 13/03/2018 10:07

Thank you posie for speaking the truth. Will donate when I can.

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