Issues with gender self ID in other countries

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totallywired · 09/03/2018 22:07

One of the arguments I keep hearing in favour of gender self ID id that in other countries where it has been introduced like Canada and Ireland there have been no problems with access to women’s safe spaces. Is this the case or is anyone aware of any instances of men accessing women’s spaces to abuse them?

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OldCrone · 09/03/2018 22:31

This was just linked to on another thread. Not all in the countries you mentioned, but using similar laws.
nounequalrights.com/information/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/The-Threat-to-Women-and-Girls-Illustrated-1.pdf

Melamin · 09/03/2018 22:29

There was a piece on The Westminster Hour, no longer on I-player, that also featured Miranda Yardley. On that they described a place where there were 2 night shelters, one male which was a bit rough, and one female which was tidier and cleaner.

After self-id went through, there were men sitting outside the women's shelter, smoking and drinking etc and not a woman to be seen. Both shelters were being used by men and the operators could do nothing about it. The women had vanished - no one knew where they went. I think it was somewhere in the US like LA.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 09/03/2018 22:23

One in a thread today in FWR about a man pressing a complaint for being refused access to a vulnerable women's overnight shelter in Canada, the statistics back from Target in the US where making the changing rooms unisex between doubled and tripled voyeuristic crime against women and girls, yes it's happening despite being very early days. Bear in mind too that some countries, such as Ireland, are not interpreting self ID in the way that it would be interpreted and happen here.

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