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How many here are Guardians Subscribers?

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/03/2018 02:30

I am increasingly concerned that The Guardian hasn't, and isn't, reflecting our concerns re TIMs being allowed wholesale access to women only spaces, without a proper debate.

The Tory press seem to be the only ones vocalising our concerns. How many here are subscribers to the Guardian i.e. pay them something?

I am loathe to hit them but really what action do we have left other than withdraw our money?

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LittleLebowski · 09/03/2018 06:41

Plus it's easy to take the mick, for anyone who missed this in The Daily Mash about the Guardian family snowperson.

How many here are Guardians Subscribers?
tortelliniforever · 09/03/2018 06:33

EmmaGrundy - I agree!

LittleLebowski · 09/03/2018 06:32

In defence of The Guardian, I would say the quality of actual reporting is mainly excellent and they look in to things that are often not examined elsewhere for example deaths of environmental activists as well as helping break the Panama papers.
I agree that many of the opinion writers are too alike with few dissenting voices, but where reader comments are allowed, I find them usually very balanced and more reflective of my own opinions. Some of them are gender critical - Catherine Bennett and I've seen Julie Bindel write pretty frequently in there too.
So many papers are behind paywalls when The Guardian isn't and subscribing is pretty cheap compared to many.

Orphangirl · 09/03/2018 06:11

I cancelled my subscription about a year ago, because OJ got up my nose once too often. He's always been a sanctimonious wee shit, even before he jumped on the trans wagon. It's sad the way the Guardian's gone. Anybody else remember the women's page in the 70s? Mary Stott and Jill Tweedie? That's where a lot of my awareness of feminist issues came from originally.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 09/03/2018 03:57

I'm a subscriber. I don't like some of their journalism but feel I need to continue to support because if The Guardian fails then the whole of our mainstream press has a right wing bias.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 09/03/2018 03:28

They are in bed with Momentum, I wouldn’t give them a penny of my money.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/03/2018 03:24

@CapnHaddock - maybe being overly loyal to the traditional paper of the left - their business model relies upon subscriptions not clickbait but they increasingly have gone down the clickbait route

@EnormousDormouse - I agree -it's not my read of choice anymore - something I'm sad about, they seem to have lost their roots re advocating for the dispossessed. I often often their pages and find nothing engaging, I noted yesterday that IWD didn't even show up at first glance on their headlines - had to go searching of it. The Telegraph on the other hand did a great analysis of the issues facing women in business - engaging and well presented

I read something from the Guardian editor recently that said they were hit by the double whammy of being battered re their involvement in the Snowden leaks coupled with the disruption of the newspaper sector. The current editor seems like a libfem and naive re women's issues - they seem to have lost their mojo from my perspective

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EnormousDormouse · 09/03/2018 02:43

I've stopped reading it after doing so since I was early teens (I'm now late 40s). It's crap. Sadly didn't have a subscription though so can't help with cancelling and telling them why.

CapnHaddock · 09/03/2018 02:40

Why are you loathe to cancel your sub? Their journalism standards around self ID are woeful. Cancel your sub and tell them why