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Anyone see Owned Jones latest mantrum on Twitter?

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PlectrumElectrum · 08/03/2018 21:16

Julie Bindel owned Owned Jones Grin

Not seen anyone lose their shit like that in a while!

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LifelongVaginaOwner · 09/03/2018 16:10

I got blocked for suggesting he's a child MrPan

MrPan · 09/03/2018 16:08

Was blocked by LOJ this week after an exchange over trans and informing him that this should not be conflated with gay rights, as he had done.

I did go on to say he was coming across as a nasty little misogynistic creep.
I suspect that did it, if I'm honest. Grin

ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2018 16:01

The thing that struck me about OJ's "ha ha feminists all your activism made Labour hate women even more!!!" tweets was how close in tone they were to the whole "you provoked me", "look what you made me do" kind of narratives.

Women: shut up, in case your speaking out leads to something worse. Such socialism! Such feminism allyship!

QueenOfTheAndals · 09/03/2018 15:56

The line about him being like an aggressively sanctimonious Morph has made my day it has.

Lottapianos · 09/03/2018 12:27

'They called it the cunnilingus challenge'

Grin Cheeky buggers. Well done them.

LangCleg · 09/03/2018 12:18

A couple of years back, loads of feminists were asking Owen if he would sleep with a TIF. They called it the cunnilingus challenge. LOL. He screeched homophobia and threw his toys right out of his pram.

ExFunFeminist · 09/03/2018 12:13

My mistake sorry, Stockport not Sheffield. Still uses it when asked about being middle class.

Lottapianos · 09/03/2018 12:02

'He's from Stockport isn't he? Not Sheffield.'

That's what I thought too

Trumpdump · 09/03/2018 11:56

He's on in a few minutes...

Xenophile · 09/03/2018 11:01

Yes Jessica it does rather appear that the only people LOJ approves of are men and 'women' with penises and his mum.

TinselAngel · 09/03/2018 10:49

He's from Stockport isn't he? Not Sheffield.

JessicaEccles · 09/03/2018 10:49

Please someone ask him if he would consider dating a trans man

So - if a man says he's a woman, he's a woman and lesbians MUST date him.

But if a woman says she is a man, she is still a woman and it's homophobic to say men must date her?

mm. It's almost like women lose out in every way....

BeyondDeadlySiren · 09/03/2018 10:44

"Do women have the right to speak out if they have gender-critical views, or should they be silenced?"

Perhaps get a few of his personal klaxon subjects into it too?

Does an unemployed, working class, non-uni educated, disabled single mother have the right to speak out?

TruScum · 09/03/2018 10:30

Please someone ask him if he would consider dating a trans man

Someone beat me to it 😁

Anyone see Owned Jones latest mantrum on Twitter?
LizzieSiddal · 09/03/2018 10:30

Hackmum
Do women have the right to speak out if they have gender-critical views, or should they be silenced?

Please ask him this.

hackmum · 09/03/2018 10:20

We could ask him whether he agrees with women being called "bitches" and "cunts" for holding gender-critical views, whether he agreed with the attack on Maria MacLachlan, whether he agreed with the threat to close down with the working-class library.

Do women have the right to speak out if they have gender-critical views, or should they be silenced?

Should lesbians be forced to consider trans-identified males as sexual partners? That's another one. A

Roomba · 09/03/2018 10:15

Labour in Sheffield are chopping hundreds of beautiful mature trees down, with their private partner Amey

@LinesInTheSand - Noooo! Just googled this as I grew up in Sheffield, just off Rivelin Valley Road (where all the trees are being chopped). That is so incredibly sad - another reason not to vote Labour for me. And I am a lifelong Labour voter and party member.

FeministBadger · 09/03/2018 10:09

Ah right - I stand corrected then. I still maintain that he has some weird love hate relationship going on with the working class where he paints us as being misunderstood but also gets mad when we don't think or act exactly like he wants us to. Although perhaps that's because he thinks that we owe Labour an allegiance like good children being pat on the head for the promise of sweeties.

TheWizardofWas · 09/03/2018 09:47

FeministBadger , thought his dad was a local authority worker who lost his job.

Fishfingersandwichnocheese · 09/03/2018 09:43

Please someone ask him if he would consider dating a trans man.

NauticalDisaster · 09/03/2018 09:42

Apparently I was wrong, OFJ (Owen Fucking Jones) does like to respond to dissenting opinions and is willing to discuss, he says in this video announcing his YouTube chat thus afternoon: mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/972025651048992768

Go ahead, ask him anything.

Anyone see Owned Jones latest mantrum on Twitter?
Trumpdump · 09/03/2018 09:41

Update: LOJ is doing a live q&a at midday on YouTube... Wink

FeministBadger · 09/03/2018 09:39

Discovering that LOJ parents are university lecturers has answered a nagging question I had about his weird demonization/pedestal thing of working class men. It's like the noble savage crap where people see native cultures as other but then feel bad about it so they kid themselves that there's something innately pure about it that westerners don't understand (except replace with working class and middle class).

Also, how does he align his background with his complete dismissal of university educated women? Does his mother ever look at him and wonder what happened to make him hate women like her so much?

stitchglitched · 09/03/2018 09:26

It's hilarious to see him pretending to be brave for endorsing the side of the argument that doesn't get you threatened or assaulted. But I guess being calmly disagreed with by feminists is far scarier than rape threats, doxxing, job loss and physical violence. I commend his bravery.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 09/03/2018 09:13

I saw an early part of this last night. Haven't looked back to see what's been deleted but I think it went like this:

JB: I can't forgive you, Owen, for refusing to condemn TRAs threatening to get the Working Class Library in Salford shut down just because I was due to give a talk there on growing up as a working class lesbian.

OJ: I have no memory of that at all.

JB: [Screenshots]

Rapid deterioration from that point - JB said OJ wasn't working class, his parents were in Militant Tendency, his mother was associated with an entryist movement that was trying to sabotage a DV campaign JB was involved with in the early 90s - all got very messy from that point on. OJ was apoplectic that JB was bringing his mother into things.

The pyjamas caption on that picture made me laugh a lot, which is unfortunate as I've got a very bad cough and shouldn't be laughing.

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