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Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2018 09:37

m.facebook.com/DRradfem/posts/2108975092654757

Transcript of her interrogation disciplinary interview with Labour on above link.

The term Orwellian is way overused, but I think it is actually applicable here.

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

I feel sorry for Venice, it came across that Labour was very much part of who she was.

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DarthArts · 08/03/2018 15:00

Can anyone imagine the disciplinary process for those LP men calling JJ a c**t being questioned in this fashion?

As far as I'm aware they haven't been censured at all.

It's utterly horrific reading that transcript.

There's absolute underlying malicious and smug tone about the whole proceeding.

JenniferJames · 08/03/2018 14:55

"If only the Pope has said to Galileo- 'You saying the earth revolved round the Sun HURTS MY FEELINGS and is offensive!'- the whole Renaissance could have been avoided."

Exactly this. Trans ideology is based on faith alone. The feeling of being a woman despite evidence to the contrary. Which of course is fine... ppl can believe what they want but they don't get to insist EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO BELIEVE IT TOO.

Venice is an inspiration. More than anyone else, I think, Venice has been at the vanguard of the fight against self-id. She's been bullied in her community, threatened, publicly humiliated, had her livelihood threatened ostracised, shunned, defamed and STILL SHE RISES. Stands there with that bright smile and love in her heart and she DGAF. She is fearless.

VaguelyAware · 08/03/2018 14:52

"D" consistently referred to Eddie Izzard as He & Mr. How revealing.

Datun · 08/03/2018 14:42

Christ almighty.

That interview is absolutely horrific.

D1? D2? Did you write this meme with the word dicksplash??

A fucking meme??!!!!

And, and, make the person have red eyes? In a private message to a friend?

Did you, did you? Were you thinking evil thoughts?

Did you take a selfie?

Heretic.
Burn the witch.

Who is the interviewer?

Venice Allan, name and shame.

The Labour Party aren't just a laughing stock.

They are the very definition of misogyny.

Jesus.

xxmarksthespot · 08/03/2018 14:41

This is the double standards and witch-hunting really laid bare. Total McCarthy-ite job. Hope it gets spread far and wide.

SleepFreeZone · 08/03/2018 14:25

The worm wil turn, just wait.

SweetGrapes · 08/03/2018 14:24

Happy Women's day Venice! Flowers Gin

SweetGrapes · 08/03/2018 14:18

Horrendous! All the rape threats and violent threats against women are just fine and dandy. But this is not!

This in the land of speakers corner. Hmm Angry

#labourlostme #labourlosingwomen

Ereshkigal · 08/03/2018 13:55

It's chilling as many pp have said. Is it just on FB? It needs to reach a wide audience.

Cocolepew · 08/03/2018 13:50

Unfuckingbelievable

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/03/2018 13:49

The double standard is just extraordinary. All this stuff about how offensive she has been, when the things that are regularly said to her are in a different league abusiveness but we don't see the men who have done that pulled in for questioning.

I am impressed with the dignity and courage with which Venice conducted herself during this interrogation. Well done to her.

ElizaDontlittle · 08/03/2018 13:01

I'm lost for words reading that.
I too have grown up in a family that is red from the cradle. My uncle withdrew his membership after Iraq for a few years, it's not an unthinking allegiance. I have had ambitions of standing at least for council. But I think I will have to resign my membership over this. I might speak to my MP first... I don't know where he stands. I differ with him on a few things but he's a principled man.

Thank you to Venice if she's reading for pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes!

ArcheryAnnie · 08/03/2018 12:54

If I ate a man I was having sex with, it would hardly be a valid defence to note that spiders and praying mantises do it all the time

This is also the PERFECT reply to that ridiculous "but clownfish! But mushrooms!" meme that went around recently. Nicely put!

TalkingintheDark · 08/03/2018 12:54

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

Yes, I noticed this too. Chilling.
And just awful in every way.

dorade · 08/03/2018 12:38

I kept hoping the penny would drop for the interviewer. I really can't accept that all these people who parrot "transwomen are women" actually believe it deep down.

ArcheryAnnie · 08/03/2018 12:30

I'll vote for which ever candidate is most likely to keep this bunch of Mcarthyist, gynephobic lunatics out of power.

Since all the parties are like this (except UKIP, and I am never ever voting UKIP as they are a bunch of racist, misogynist, useless bastards), then possibly the way to go is to indeed vote on a candidate-by-candidate basis.

Eg I could never vote for Corbyn, but I am intending to vote for my local Labour MP, because he's been pretty sensible on this issue. (And a lot of the Parliamentary Labour Party absolutely hate Corbyn, too, which is reassuring on an individual level even it it's not a fucking bit of help at party level.)

Same with the Tories, the Greens, the LibDems, the SNP - all of the parties have signed up to this shit, but the individual candidates might be OK.

(Disclaimer: I don't think I could ever vote Tory, however nice the candidate, because of everything else they do, but I'd hold my nose and vote for a gender-crit Green, SNP or LibDem, I think.)

XXHelenaXX · 08/03/2018 12:29

What makes it 100 times worse is that whilst they are busy scrutinising every lighthearted tweet Venice made and forcing her to account for them, they have ignored the MANY women who have complained about the Labour Against Feminism group (where the men call JJ a c**t).

Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour
XXHelenaXX · 08/03/2018 12:28

All the above, plus

Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour
MrsOvarall · 08/03/2018 12:24

Bloody hell. She is better off out of there with her integrity intact. Labour, what have you done?

Venice, if you're reading, I firmly believe that your time will come. Once the puberty blocked kids come of age and start suing, once sunlight exposes the homophobia and misogyny of TRAs. People like you will be recognised as the ones who refused to lie. Stay strong.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 08/03/2018 12:19

...well that's decided me.

Rather than spoil a ballot paper as I'd prefer, I'll vote for which ever candidate is most likely to keep this bunch of Mcarthyist, gynephobic lunatics out of power.

AstraiaLiberty · 08/03/2018 11:54

This is so sad because I know that the Labour party was really important to Venice. She seemed to have a strong belief that despite all the current madness, Labour would see sense given time, and didn't want to withdraw her support.

The way she was treated in that interview was shameful. Nonsense about feminist animals, really? And a focus on hurt feelings rather than material reality.

I'm proud of her for standing her ground and not apologising for stating facts.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 08/03/2018 11:52

I hope Venice considers a challenge in the courts re: constructive dismissal if this is possible (I'm not entirely sure?). Having read the exchanges I can say very firmly that Labour - who I've voted for in the past (I'm a floating voter) - have lost my vote until they apologise in full and publicly to Venice.

TERFousBreakdown · 08/03/2018 11:46

Chilling to the bone!

I have no words, really. SadAngry

LeverMyArmchairBack · 08/03/2018 11:40

🙋 who has also been bullied out of the Labour party over Misogyny? The women join in (Teacher with passive aggressive anger issues) and do the dirty work for the men, like they have Stockholm syndrome.

🙋

PositivelyPERF · 08/03/2018 11:35

FFS! It’s constructive dismissal! They have bullied her into resigning.

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