Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour

Can you link? The other one doesn't work

it was on you tube just a few mins ago

Why has it been removed?

It says removed 'by the user'

Can i find it anywhere else?

Yes, both brilliant. And soo calm in the face of ludicrous, scrapping the barrel type charges

It's all about the reputation of the labour party and feelz of the TIMs.

You were both brilliant by the way! Articulate and intelligent. The questions were ludicrous - but the thing I cannot get my head round at all is the hypocrisy! The abuse thrown at women is entirely ignored, whereas the most innocuous comment about a trans person is a hate crime. Yes I know we say that all the time on here but there was something so utterly chilling about listening to it in action.

Read Venice's transcript and listened to Jennifer's audio... It is terrifying.

Jennifer, you are so patient and calm! My blood pressure is shooting just listening to the transcript!

LM is a joke. Can't even answer a simple question coherently.

Can you imagine if LM's twitter feed was subjected to the same scrutiny??

I'm baffled as to how the labour men (and transwomen) are allowed to get away with the hateful shit that they spout, yet women are silenced & sanctioned almost immediately for fuck all.

Can you imagine if LM's twitter feed was subjected to the same scrutiny??

In awe of Venice and Jennifer for remaining calm and dignified in the face of such terrifying absurdity.

I'm speechless for the second time today. What is happening to Labour? Jennifer, I listened to the whole thing. Your suspension is outrageous. It was interesting how the interviewer noticeably softened towards you as the interview went on.

It's disgusting
Very similar to what happened in 1930s Weimar.

The thing is women don't generally go around calling people cunts and bitches and hoping they die and coming up with impressively creative tortures connected their genitals.

They just don't.

The terfisaslur website simply isn't a woman kinda thang.

And gentle critical feminists are really, really the last people to be habitually abusive. It's laughable.

Perfectly normal comments and criticisms of an ideology, turned into a burn the witch scenario.

Absolutely Datun. It seems to me that the interviewers had been primed to put the worst possible construction on offhand remarks or normal social media back and forth in order to give themselves an excuse to kick V and J out.

just listened to your recording Jen

It's extremely clear that you have been suspended basically for calling attention to the equality act and to Labour's own rules

I already knew what was going on of course but still hearing it like that has left me a little bit speechless

Yes and I suppose in some ways the outcome doesn't matter. Those transcripts are damming.

This is incredibly damaging for votes. I wonder if it will hit the wider media?

What a completely unfair process if Jennifer has made complaints that have not been dealt with and she has to sit through that meeting and deal with what I can only think of as spurious complaints.

Also I might be wrong but that man asking Venice about feminism in the animal kingdom - I mean was he subconsciously trying to get in that he is an alpha male and dominate rather than run a hearing?

I simply can't vote Labour.

I never would have thought I would say that.

Again though it is great to hear Venice and Jennifer in action their dogged determination is awe inspiring.

Women are being hauled over the coals for, hand on heart, entirely genuine, rational concerns. Not least of which, is being censored and silenced for merely having those concerns.

And, in the meantime they are being relentlessly persecuted, doxxed, threatened, having family members threatened, employers called and their businesses targeted.

It's disgusting.

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Good knows. I truly think they might be that contemptuous of the people they are supposed to represent.

Which, given numerous platforms where this can be aired, is really, really not a smart move.

But maybe they are stupid as well as contemptuous.

datun i agree.

So I take it they both can't really be suspended can they? For being women, gender critical feminists?

@JenniferJames

Also just listened to the recording.

If it wasn't so frightening, it would be risible.

Perfectly normal comments and criticisms of an ideology, turned into a burn the witch scenario.

The ridiculous overdramatisation of standard, every day discourse to imply the heights of heinous catastrophe is embarrassing.

Are people actually paid to dissect and analyse this?

Awful show.

jenniferjames I have just relistened to your audio.

You are impressive articulate and intelligent.

i am so glad you mentioned the abuse you get and that you have made complaints that have not been followed up on.

I am also glad you mentioned the risk of sexual predators.

A million thank yous.

An exhausted working m

Ereshkigal Seemed odd that interviewer intimated that Stalin sent disabled people to the Gulag. He sent minor criminals and political dissidents there. She must have been thinking of the shoah. But what a disgusting as well as idiotic suggestion. Absolutely horrendous that Labour is behaving like this. Clueless and sinister.

Deafening silence on the abuse that you had received. What you said about the male domination of local parties was excellent, and is the really important part of this losing attempt to shut us down.

You were brilliant, Jennifer James.

That’d whats odd about Corbyn, he can talk to extremists, but he’s got less respect for dissenting opinion when it comes to his own policies. A strong statement that labour would work to protect women’s rights whilst making the UK a better place for transpeople would have done so much to assuage concerns.

When Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader of the Labour party, I always got the sense he didn't get feminism or just didn't think women's rights were important. The fact that he's ultimately in charge of this shitshow just confirms it for me.

Jennifer and Venice, you are both so brave and inspiring.

Just adding my voice to those of you saying how amazing you are Venice and Jennifer. The transcript and recording are both ludicrous and scary but you coped so well in the face of such ridiculous questioning.

That point when in JJ's sinterview they tried to make out that by tweeting a picture of Stalin to the secret thoughtpolice Facebook group Labour Against Transphobia admin who is a disability rights campaigner she was saying that disabled people should be sent to the gulags