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Venice Allan (Dr Radfem) resigns from Labour

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2018 09:37

m.facebook.com/DRradfem/posts/2108975092654757

Transcript of her interrogation disciplinary interview with Labour on above link.

The term Orwellian is way overused, but I think it is actually applicable here.

Particularly noticeable to me was the insistence on not just looking at the the facts, but at what she was thinking. I didn't realise thought crime was a thing outside of dystopian fiction.

I feel sorry for Venice, it came across that Labour was very much part of who she was.

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ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2018 13:50

Found it, thanks.

Why the fuck is it any woman's job to "welcome trans women into the Labour community"? Why isn't Madigan - a Labour women's officer who is actively working to get rid of women from the Labour community - up before a fucking panel being asked if Madigan is welcoming women into the Labour community?

I am on these threads again and again arguing against abandoning the Labour party completely (mainly because all the parties are shit on this), but fucking hell Labour are making it difficult.

ChattyLion · 09/03/2018 13:40

stickyice agreed. These threads are turning up so many areas of girls and women’s lives that will be affected very negatively if self ID comes in, it’s really terrifying. Labour are acting as if this legal change has already happened. Sad

JaimesGoldenHand · 09/03/2018 13:30

I found it earlier this morning by searching You Tube for Jennifer James Labour

ChattyLion · 09/03/2018 13:29

Thank you for getting this out there I’ve contacted.. hope Guido goes with it.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 09/03/2018 13:25

@JenniferJames

Are you able to re-link the audio?

The original link has gone.

ArcheryAnnie · 09/03/2018 13:15

Alas, the video is marked "removed by the user" when I went to listen!

GuardianLions · 09/03/2018 13:02

I haven't had time to read the thread, but I have the transcript open on a window and keep ducking in to it. VA comes across as so clever and witty - I know that this is really serious and upsetting that the LP has been really important to her, but her rebuttals are just so satisfyingly fearless and spot on.

It does read a bit like a monty python sketch or something though. It would be great to do a re-enactment (ie- only needing vague similar props/toys/brooms/bananas to be characters) so people could watch on youtube

IveContactedGuidoFawkes · 09/03/2018 12:47

Probably mentioned in the thread, I'm in a rush, but has anyone tweeted this thread to Janice Turner and any other journalists/ legal bods that are basically sensible? That video should be in the national papers and shared as widely as possible, the general public have the right to know the reality of this Labour party's values and standards, and what they're potentially voting for.

As my handy name change suggests! I've emailed the Guido Fawkes site this morning, linking to this thread.

A lot of the MSM pick up on his stuff.

Kneedeepinunicorns · 09/03/2018 12:38

Probably mentioned in the thread, I'm in a rush, but has anyone tweeted this thread to Janice Turner and any other journalists/ legal bods that are basically sensible? That video should be in the national papers and shared as widely as possible, the general public have the right to know the reality of this Labour party's values and standards, and what they're potentially voting for.

stickyice · 09/03/2018 11:40

chattylion your point about people's views being held to account in review : HR meetings is valid.

The aggressive nature of some of the trans activists I fear will mean they jump on companies and brands too.

I get a chill when I think of lwhat the implication is for everyday women.

I mean how equal pay data will be handled?

So so so many implications.

xxmarksthespot · 09/03/2018 11:38

"I remember reading about the kangaroo courts dealing with sexual assault in the SWP which firmly blamed the female victims and shamed them for bringing attention to what had happened and being horrified - I never thought I'd see the day where something similar happened in Labour. WTF."

Same totalitarian and misogynistic streak has always been there in Labour, they've kept it more hidden for a while but it's having a bit of a resurgence lately.

camomileteadrinker · 09/03/2018 11:38

I wonder what ever happened to Labour being for the many, not the few? Women are the many and trans are the few.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 09/03/2018 10:15

Where can I see the vid? Anyone?

JaimesGoldenHand · 09/03/2018 10:00

Dear Jennifer and Venice. I am not a natural political ally, though I feel strongly about self ID and donated to the crowdfunder. I have felt sometimes that you both come on too strong on these points etc etc. However, I have read/listened to your interviews and I cannot express strongly enough my admiration of your poise. I would have been going berserk if they'd asked me those ridiculous questions and ignored reasonable points about the abuse you'd received. Congratulations and very best of luck with your continuing struggles with the LP.

Batteriesallgone · 09/03/2018 09:55

Contacted my Labour MP.

This is just crazy.

FeministBadger · 09/03/2018 09:50

I remember reading about the kangaroo courts dealing with sexual assault in the SWP which firmly blamed the female victims and shamed them for bringing attention to what had happened and being horrified - I never thought I'd see the day where something similar happened in Labour. WTF.

ChattyLion · 09/03/2018 09:17

Oh and I am now writing to my MP again on this matter and hope posters and lurkers will do the same if they have concerns. This shit is totally unacceptable.

Ereshkigal · 09/03/2018 08:57

It really needs to go viral. So scary.

ChattyLion · 09/03/2018 07:58

This whole thing is utterly shameful. Is this how Labour wants to be known? Surely there must also be policies of the Labour Party that would prohibit this kind of victimising of it’s members as well?

Please please can those affected try to get wider media attention for this. Feels like a very very scary slippery slope that public life is heading down.

Currently it’s about Labour Party membership which is bad enough, but if self ID becomes the law presumably anyone’s HR department can hold a similar discussion about gender critical personal politics if they were minded to?

This is very frightening with historical parallels as PP have said.

Itsbeenaverylongweek · 09/03/2018 07:22

Absolutely shocking and something that mainstream media needs to pick up on and expose.
I wonder are the TIMs/TRAs of the Labour Party being more organised and targeted in their complaining? Could this be another reason why J&V are being dealt with while their own complaints are ignored? Maybe before the resignations go in, there could be mass complaints about certain people's twitter feeds/bullying comments etc

thebewilderness · 09/03/2018 05:43

That inquisition appears to me to be a violation of their own anti discrimination policies as well as harassment.

TruScum · 09/03/2018 05:19

I have also flounced from labour but will happily keep donating for as long as is needed to see this through.

FlorisApple · 09/03/2018 00:41

I've seen a lot to shock me in this whole debate.....but this has really shocked me. Modern day McCarthyism in action. It's appalling. What are they so afraid of that we can't be allowed to speak? It's chilling in so many ways.

terfing · 09/03/2018 00:01

Would Venice be able to sue for this? That interview is appalling!

JenniferJames · 08/03/2018 23:55

'Jennifer, you are so patient and calm'

adjusts halo lol

I rehearsed it with two tones the day before: 'aggressive' and 'reasonable'. My fella and bff were like 'FUCK NO DO NOT USE THE AGGRESSIVE ONE'. Same words tho'. :-)

Youtube vid down for the night, one more thing to edit. Thank you for the support. Think we're gonna win?

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