International Women's Day Mass Cancelling of Labour Memberships Action

The DV shelters will be for Self ID males and crimes against women will skyrocket under Self ID. There are no political parties that do not advocate for Self ID so your assertion that there is a choice between Self ID and the Tories is in error.

Far worse unicorns - I fear A MAN may have arrived.

Ooh look, the cavalry's arrived

Just SO weird to come onto the FWR board in your never-seen-before username and start with the lofty 'I will never take you seriously...' bollocks. Who the fuck are you that anyone would care? Talk about random.

Also should add that as a member of labour myself nothing would make me happier than people like you lot cancelling your memberships because as far as I'm concerned the sooner you stop having a stake in the future of the party the better. Labour doesn't need transphobes (and that's what you are regardless of your ENDLESS attempts to assert otherwise) hanging onto its coat tails and trying to derail attempts to move towards equality.

I am not a member of the labour party but I am resigning from the labour party.

Women and men are the human race, women bring men and women into the human race from our bodies. Some things will never change.

Sorry but I can't take you seriously if you think self-ID is a bigger threat to women than the Tories. I can't consider you a feminist if you think self-ID is more of a concern than slashing funding to DV shelters, the fact that rape convictions have fallen under the tories, the danger to abortion rights, the disproportionately negative affect universal credit will have on women. By all means cancel your membership if it makes you feel good but don't you dare have the gall to call yourself a feminist while you do it.

OOAOML Don't panic, I'm one of those hairy barren lesbians the TRAs warn about so you're positively princessy by comparison. In fact I'm thinking about identifying as a shetland pony since passing is a definite possibility.

If Labour members/voters are under ANY illusions as to what Corbyn thinks of your concerns or worries on the ramifications of self-ID, the ‘likes’ on this post will disabuse you of them.

I have a furry belly. It just makes me more adorable.

Actually Snibble I am a bit hairy - I'm gender non-conforming regarding leg hair just now.

Man haters

Oh no come on ladies that is a terrible accusation, we'd better buck our ideas up before we get accused of being prudish, jealous or hairy

Will I get shot if I say those transgender men are all seriously hot and I would probably date them in a second if given a chance?

Sorry, the point being NOT that I take away for a second from trans people whether male to female or female to male to live exactly as they wish, I do on the other hand worry about the legal ramifications of self-id becoming the norm and feel the need to protect my biological sex. I think self-id is dangerous to genuine trans people just as much as us.

So having talked myself in knots to try and show I'm not evil even if I'm now considered (to my children's hilarity) a 'radical' I will leave the Labour party with a heavy heart on Thursday then and I will let them know why.

Bugger.

I love it when someone like Sallyanne hurtles into a thread, typing with their knuckles, every sentence so gloriously exposing their ignorance and lack of experience. Do carry on.

Transgender women aren't the specific problem.

The problem is the 'self - ID' thing which allows any man, to proclaim himself a woman, with no counselling, no history of gender dysphoria and no history of living as a woman.

The ramifications of men who ID as women is already being felt in women's sport, within medical settings, prisons and in shop changing rooms.

Because they're women, Sallyanne . Intimate spaces need to be separated by sex, not by clothing and appearance. It's fine for biological women to look masculine. It's not fine to expect women to accept biological men into intimate spaces.

As for 'has anyone here ever met trans people' - oh dear, you don't come to MN much, do you?

Yes thanks. I have trans friends, and there are a number of wonderful transwomen and transmen who are MNetters. Take a look around and you'll find their posts, and the many concerns they have about self ID and how badly this will affect them.

Yes, women who call themselves transmen are completely welcome in all female spaces. What with being female, and all.

Even if they wear a stetson.

Imagine that.

Feminists aren't trans exclusive.
We're penis-exclusive.

Its obvious you haven't been here long. Stick around, you might lose some of those preconceived ideas about other people.

Sallyanne, you are about the 99th troll who has shown up with this routine.
Male violence is the greatest human rights crisis the world has ever known. Women are deeply concerned about this.
We are talking about it here.
I personally have had cordial interactions with transexual identified males. The only interaction I have had with trangender identified males is the rape and death threats they send me right regularly because I refuse to believe the zombie lies they tell about themselves.

I would rather have a thousand plus Trans Women in a room, Bathroom, or any where than a vile group of transphobic men haters, which is how you and your like re coming across, Have you ever actually met trans gender woman and spoken to them I think not, So Trans women are not welcome in female places, So what about Trans Men they don't have "Dicks" so they are welcome everywhere, And until they obtain a GRC they have to be treated as the gender they were born too, Works both ways

The bigger picture being The Worldwide Centrist Republic of Gilead.

Have we had the whole picture transplained yet?

As I understand it simply cancelling takes months to be reflected unless you also advise your council. Others can explain better than I how to do this.

"Sheeple" - I call bot!

I cancelled my DD but didn't write to resign or tell them why, my email saying membership is up and do I want to sign up again came a day or two ago,

also just remembered they called me couple days back said would I renew I said no they didn't ask me why which I found a bit odd but thought maybe they could guess!

Don't understand the idea that women on these threads aren't labour members / recent labour members, so we're all, what fantasists and liars ha no, you're looking in the wrong direction for that!