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International Women's Day Mass Cancelling of Labour Memberships Action

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leyat · 06/03/2018 14:54

I am passing on an action started by @mayday4women on Twitter; they aren't on Mumsnet so they said I could post here for them.

Basically they are getting a lot of women contacting them saying they are cancelling their Labour memberships due to the decision by Labour's NEC to essentially take on self ID as party policy in every area, including re AWS. And they think it'd be a more powerful statement if women did it en masse together on International Women's Day, which is the 8th March (Thursday).

The idea is to let Labour see how important this is to women, and how badly they are letting women down. Everyone can always reinstate their memberships down the line, but this is a way to be seen and heard, and to make a statement. I'm not a member of any political party myself right now, but as I say I am passing this on and doing all I can to support my sisters in the Labour Party.

Mayday for women are drawing up a statement, and you can get in touch with them directly if you want to let them know you are taking part in the action: mayday4women@gmail

Cheers!

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Datun · 07/03/2018 10:11

Why are they all suddenly saying "anti-trans activists"

There is going to be an issue over the hyphen.

Anti-trans activist

Or

Anti trans-activist.

AngryAttackKittens · 07/03/2018 09:56

"Get your heads out of your vaginas" is comical. Nope, no sexism going on with that at all, nothing to see here!

AngryAttackKittens · 07/03/2018 09:55

I thought it was the new word for "witch"...

SnibbleAgain · 07/03/2018 09:54

Get your heads out of your vaginas?

Really?

What if my vagina is an "outsie"?

LifelongVaginaOwner · 07/03/2018 09:47

@LangCleg

A Twitter user on OJ

"If women raising entirely legitimate & reasonable concerns are deemed “anti trans activists” I think Owen can be classed as an “anti women activist”."

Kneedeepinunicorns · 07/03/2018 09:45

Interesting that women talking about their rights to safety is activism, and not giving transwomen their own way unquestioningly in everything is 'anti trans'..... nothing but hyperbole and high drama.

LangCleg · 07/03/2018 09:38

Why are they all suddenly saying "anti-trans activists" and not "TERFs" or "transphobes" or "hate groups"? Has an order gone out from on high or something? Because that's happened overnight.

That's fine. The new word for feminist is now "anti-trans activist". Just so long as I'm keeping up!

TruScum · 07/03/2018 09:31

Sorry that should read ‘err no I’m not’ to being a woman Grin

I most certainly am happily ‘damaging the cause’.

TruScum · 07/03/2018 09:29

These people are unbelievable aren’t they.

Do you know, I’ve had two of them messge on me on Twitter, insisting that I recognise that ‘transwomen are women’ and that I am damaging the cause...

Err no I’m not.Confused

Has it reached the stage where they are trying to convince even me?

ShotsFired · 07/03/2018 09:27

Pink News have their own special way of reporting it Hmm

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/06/anti-trans-activists-plan-mass-resignation-from-labour-over-trans-inclusive-policy/

SIDE NOTE: the comments on the linked Bergdof resignation are interesting, for Pink News: www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/06/munroe-bergdorf-resigns-from-lgbt-advisor-role-after-a-week-in-the-job/comments/#disqus_thread

BanyanTree · 07/03/2018 09:22

I don't think so.

What is something snappy on the ballot paper.

LifelongVaginaOwner · 07/03/2018 09:18

@BanyanTree

Have you got local elections coming up? Something snappy on the ballot paper?

AngryAttackKittens · 07/03/2018 09:17

Coalition of reality-based individuals versus team "some penises are female".

BanyanTree · 07/03/2018 09:16

I am not a member of the Labour party and am what I call a floating voter. I have no loyalty to any party. That said, I would still like to make my protest over Labours campaign to throw women under a bus. How can I do this?

Ereshkigal · 07/03/2018 09:15

but you're wildly out of step with the rest of the country

This is laughable. Where do you live, Goldsmiths Student Union coffee shop?

Ereshkigal · 07/03/2018 09:14

for all having the same views

Think you misspelled "sane" there. I sympathise. Damn autocorrect Grin

CapnHaddock · 07/03/2018 09:01

Really good article on the Labour shit show by Gappy Tales in Medium: medium.com/@GappyTales/a-crisis-of-misogny-a-plea-to-the-labour-party-4ce9d39e11c4

Floisme · 07/03/2018 08:55

What am I talking about - we did just ask nicely!

Floisme · 07/03/2018 08:54

Yeah if only we'd just asked nicely.

hackmum · 07/03/2018 08:47

Owen Jones has posted a tweet this morning saying that a senior Labour party figure has informed him that the main reason the party updated its position on trans rights is "because of the anti-trans backlash". In other words, he says, anti-trans activists "overplayed their hand so much they made Labour more pro-trans rights."

He then goes on to describe "anti-trans activists" as having alienated people with an "astonishingly vindictive, sometimes hateful approach".

You know, as opposed to the sweetly reasonable approach of the TRAs. I guess we just imagined all that stuff about killing TERFS, closing down our meetings, the attack on Maria Maclachlan, the liberal use of bitches, cunts etc.

MorrisZapp · 07/03/2018 08:40

Oh Liam. Get help.

WooWooSister · 07/03/2018 08:38

They not only erroneously believe the canard “trans women are women”
I don't think they do believe that. Not deep down. Not in a way that they'd have a sexual relationship with them. Not in a way that they'd ask them to take a pay cut. Not in a way that they'd push them to the sidelines and shout over them (as they do to women). The very fact that they are centring them in policy shows that they don't really believe 'transwomen are women.'

They are just pretending they do - to try to shut women up; to push women to the margins again; to take back the very few pesky advances women have won.
Their sexism is as breathtaking as their gaslighting.

AngryAttackKittens · 07/03/2018 08:32

I question the wisdom of having Madigan as an invited speaker at any event given how bored everyone looked during the last one where someone took photos.

Unless it's a seminar for Young Labour members who suffer from chronic insomnia, in which case great choice, well done.

AngryAttackKittens · 07/03/2018 08:30

It was to me than there were four people sat there that were not of this moment, not really of the time, not really of the place and not engaging with what was happening in the room . I now know they are not women. Their malevolence was tangible at the time. I felt it. So these dudes were there all along. Gaslighting. It wasn't a fancy dress party fellas, that was meant to be a moment for women. What were you doing there? Taking over and making it all about you?

Once you've seen this it can't be unseen, and you'll immediately recognize other men who're like those men when you see them again. And there are more women seeing it every day.

The genie isn't going back in the bottle no matter how hard you shove, sally etc. Once a woman's eyes are open they stay that way, and now lots of us know that we're not alone.

noraclavicle · 07/03/2018 08:29

if you don't believe that our belief of what people are can be controlled and codified through law I would invite you to consider the entire history of the slave trade.

So you’re taking your cues from that? Classy!

I’ll note that in pushing to overturn biological realit you’re also in effect pushing for a revival of blasphemy laws - when rational, thinking people couldn’t state that they didn’t believe in imaginary things. The kind of laws brought in by narcissistic, power-hungry men. Seems incredible that not a decade after those were abolished here, another lot of narcissistic, power hungry men would be along to beat down rational, thinking people.

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