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leyat · 06/03/2018 15:02

I've just started a thread about this, but sharing here in case anyone misses it:

I am passing on an action started by @mayday4women on Twitter; they aren't on Mumsnet so they said I could post here for them.

Basically they are getting a lot of women contacting them saying they are cancelling their Labour memberships due to the decision by Labour's NEC to essentially take on self ID as party policy in every area, including re AWS. And they think it'd be a more powerful statement if women did it en masse together on International Women's Day, which is the 8th March (Thursday).

The idea is to let Labour see how important this is to women, and how badly they are letting women down. Everyone can always reinstate their memberships down the line, but this is a way to be seen and heard, and to make a statement. I'm not a member of any political party myself right now, but as I say I am passing this on and doing all I can to support my sisters in the Labour Party.

Mayday for women are drawing up a statement, and you can get in touch with them directly if you want to let them know you are taking part in the action: mayday4women@gmail

Cheers!

SeniorRita · 06/03/2018 14:47

It's OK guys, my Google works.

woman11017 · 06/03/2018 14:43

Anne Goody Ruzylo on twitter:
Please send me your name, CLP and your position (if you hold one) if you intend resigning from the LP. A mass resignation is planned, if you resigned recently you can still add your name to the list.
Please don't resign in isolation, do it collectively.

MAYDAY 4 WOMEN
Damn, we are getting like 1 email a minute right now.
If want to leave over Self-ID please DONT resign from Labour individually. Lets collectivise this and do it WOMEN TOGETHER.…

MrPan · 06/03/2018 14:40

My Twitter line is increasingly populated by the kool aid inclusive polite women. It's more males who are kicking a fuss.
But that's a survey of one.

VaguelyAware · 06/03/2018 14:19

Oops, sorry - I failed to refresh the page.

VaguelyAware · 06/03/2018 14:18

PIE - Paedophile Information Exchange.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

LizzieSiddal · 06/03/2018 13:59

Has it been confirmed by Labour that they are going ahead with this?

SeniorRita · 06/03/2018 13:56

redshoeblueshoe

HH supported PIE in the 70's, why do you think she will support women

I don't know what PIE is and I didn't suggest she would support women, I just wondered if she had made any public comment as she was the main driver behind the Equality Act.

TheXXFactor · 06/03/2018 13:24

I think you are in denial. This is coming from the left

Totally agree. The quickest way to embed these attitudes for a generation in Labour is to lie to yourself that they are due to some sort of right-wing conspiracy or infiltration. Absolute bollocks. There has always been a rich seam of misogyny on the left (as on the right) - look at how hard women had to push to get unions to take pay equality seriously, for example - but the now-despised neoliberals of New Labour did at least pay lip service to sex equality. Now that has been swept away and we're back to the good, old-fashioned sexism of the 70s - the Corbyn heyday - blended with the new misogyny of Big Tech, Bromentum and social media.

redshoeblueshoe · 06/03/2018 12:58

HH supported PIE in the 70's, why do you think she will support women

derxa · 06/03/2018 12:25

Or even cow milk. I presume we're not at the stage where bulls are getting udder transplants yet. Do you think there are many votes in self ID for cows and bulls? Grin
I'm not a labour voter but I support you all in this. The Tories started all this with their ID nonsense. What can I do to make the point clear that women won't put up with this any more?

LifelongVaginaOwner · 06/03/2018 12:11

If you don't think that Jezziah is full of crap. Read this. Members will be consulted on policy. Abuse of women won't be tolerated. Yea, right

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-ill-become-pm-by-giving-labour-members-more-control-over-party-a3641966.html

Popchyk · 06/03/2018 12:10

If they had a plan in place to help transmen advance in the Labour Party with the same speed as transwomen then that would be something at least, but of course they don't. Transmen don't exist for the Labour Party.

They have demonstrated that they only care about the right sort of transgender people. Men.

SeniorRita · 06/03/2018 12:09

@PenguindreamsofDraco

Thank you for letting me know, disappointing. I do get the feeling she is just worn out with Labour now, understandably.

I happen to know a few senior Labour people (a couple of Lords, a couple on the shadow cabinet), I don't know HH but I know someone who knows her well. I might Tweet her and ask her opinion.

terfing · 06/03/2018 12:07

I'm not a Tory, but I think the Tories could clean-up here by coming out against this policy and his mopping up some of the politically homeless. Let's face it, most Tories will be against self-id, so I doubt they'll lose any members.

SmurfOrTerf · 06/03/2018 12:05

TruScum totally agree, JJ has been saying the same thing for over a month.
Corbyn and the LP hate women unless they have a penis

BlindYeo · 06/03/2018 11:59

Yup they have totally failed women. They haven't got a) the brains or b) the guts or c) the slightest desire to show solidarity with women to adhere to the basic truth that woman = adult human female.

Vote with your feet.

DarthArts · 06/03/2018 11:55

Added my name to the Mayday4women mass resignation list.

Popchyk · 06/03/2018 11:41

Am I the only one who thinks this is a good thing?

The quicker this incarnation of Labour crashes and burns the better. This latest idiocy only helps that aim.

And then decent Labour people can rebuild after that, if they still want to. There might be nothing left to salvage at that point.

Datun · 06/03/2018 11:40

.

LangCleg · 06/03/2018 11:32

DH also leaving Labour today.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 06/03/2018 11:23

SeniorRita HH is my MP. I emailed her before Christmas with my concerns about self ID etc etc. I got the automated 'thanks for your email' response (so I know it was received). Still waiting for any actual response 10 weeks on.

So whatever her views actually are, she's keeping them to herself as far as her constituents are concerned.

TruScum · 06/03/2018 11:19

Anyone else sitting and summering while they wait for the ‘groundbreaking’ announcement?

Collidascope · 06/03/2018 11:15

Cut in half on the tray of a sanitary bin? Bloody towel/tampon optional.

Or drowning in a vat of expressed breast milk. Or even cow milk. I presume we're not at the stage where bulls are getting udder transplants yet.