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My Life CBBC Transgender

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MrsPatterson2014 · 03/03/2018 10:16

I have been reading these threads for months, never felt brave enough to post. Have been promted by my 7 and 9 year old telling me that people can be born in the wrong body and they are Transgender. They both repeated this as a matter of faith as being 7 and 9 their critical faculties are still very much in development. Hence a conversation with them about how no one can be born in the wrong body etc. Have only watched about 10 mind of the programme ( will watch the rest later) but was presented very uncritically. Am rambling a bit as in a hurry but I think my point is, should CBBC really be presenting this issue as fact to young and susceptible children?

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OldCrone · 09/01/2021 23:04

the poster who resurrected it has a point

You mean the 13 or 14-year-old child who resurrected it?

midgebabe · 09/01/2021 22:23

Quaggers perhaps if you had experienced dysmorphia you would realise that showing the possibility that you can change sex someone like that , who is too young to recognise the lie, could be instantaneous relief and joy

Yet as someone who lived through that and out thenother side, I now see that promise as evil and aimed at harming people like me. Aimed at changing people like me

Quaagars · 09/01/2021 22:06

Realise it's a zombie now, but the poster who resurrected it has a point, which seems to be along the lines of what I was saying - how is showing someone transgender on telly going to make kids think "right, that's it, I want to be transgender now too?"
If someone who watched it when young could see that, and didn't automatically get "transed" - shows young people can have minds of their own.

Quaagars · 09/01/2021 21:55

Aw crap, missed it was a zombie thread lol Grin

InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 09/01/2021 21:49

Christ it's like Shaun of the dead here...

Quaagars · 09/01/2021 21:48

@HermioneWeasley

Why are the men who run the BBC so invested in transitioning children?
Just because they're showing trans people on telly, doesn't mean they're after transitioning your kids Confused
InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 09/01/2021 21:47

@ShutTheFuckUp123

This is a zombie thread !
Yup... and we have been told to educate ourselves....
ShutTheFuckUp123 · 09/01/2021 21:44

This is a zombie thread !

tallhedgehog · 09/01/2021 21:36

Hello, I am shocked by the intolerance on this thread. I am a teenager, who watched the show aged 7. Despite being a tomboy and a lesbian, i am not 'confused' and i understand the frankly basic difference between gender dysphoria and not liking pink. The show didn't confuse me in the slightest, merely expanding my horizons and making me more tolerant. In fact, the concept made perfect sense to me, a 7 year old, and i think it shows your internalised transphobia that you struggle with the concept. Oh, and being transgender is thoroughly supported by scientists. I suggest you educate yourselves instead of posting intolerant views against a show starring a 13 year old boy

Theswaggyotter · 07/03/2018 22:47

Looks like it was made in 2014. I wonder if Leo is still trans or how things have progressed. Was he only 13 when he started puberty blockers? Scary stuff

RealityHasALiberalBias · 07/03/2018 20:25

The way the trans ideology impacts kids is the thing that worries me the most about it - much more than sport and safe spaces (though I agree these are hugely problematic as well).

I really believe that the trans fad is a product of the reinforcing of gender stereotypes in children and young people over the past twenty years. All this blue and pink, girls toys and boys toys stuff that is FAR more entrenched than it was when I was a child. All to sell more tat - capitalism is at the root of this.

Gacapa · 07/03/2018 20:03

Are the BBC showing this again? It seems to be on all the time! I swear it was about two years ago I caught my kids watching it.

Bejazzled · 07/03/2018 19:55

The BBC have been pushing this agenda for a long time. I think it's disgusting actually.

RemainOptimistic · 07/03/2018 19:51

I'm horrified. I cut my hair short and was happy being mistaken for a boy for a big part of my childhood/teens. Always been interested in science. Never been much of a chatter. I'm definitely a woman though!

Puberty is a tumultuous enough time without someone telling you you are in the wrong body and need drugs and surgery to fix you.

This is sexist beyond belief! How has no one at the BBC noticed how horrendously sexist this is?

There was that Twitter storm a year or two ago about that man who claimed women shouldn't be allowed in science labs because they were distracting the menz, since women are apparently so prone to crying and men are so distracted by crying. The debunked myth of ladybrain and manbrain is what that entire ugly mess was resting on. Time to get rid not double down!

FencingFightingTorture35 · 07/03/2018 18:05

The programme is if you want to watch it.

There is a segment about puberty blockers and how they are completely reversible. There is even a 'Dr Polly' from Tavistock clinic talking as if they do no harm at all and kids can come off them and resume puberty just like that should they so wish. I thought the Tavistock clinic was better than that. Leo's mother talks about how Leo went on them at 12 but she'd happily have let Leo take them from 9 had it been allowed.

53rdWay · 07/03/2018 17:01

They had an animation of a conveyor belt with crude pictures representing pink girls and blue boys. They showed pink brains going into the girls and blue brains going into the boys

Fucking hell, BBC.

I’m another one who was not at all ‘girly’ as a child. Didn’t play with dolls or Barbies, zero interest in clothes or makeup, liked being outside and getting muddy, did not AT ALL want to grow up into a woman. Was bad enough being bullied for this as a child in the 80s for not being a ‘proper’ girl, and it must be even harder for non-girly girls now childhood is more gendered. WTF is CBBC thinking putting out material that supports the idea of pink and blue brains?

(I am fine being a woman now, although I am pretty sure that if transgender and nonbinary had been a big thing when I was a teenager I would not have defined myself as a girl. Fortunately i discovered feminism first!)

LangCleg · 07/03/2018 16:57

This is what I keep banging on about on the Guides thread. We are bringing up a generation of kids who sincerely believe that human beings can change sex. At the same time, institutions with safeguarding duties towards minors are putting them into overnight accommodation together. It's a recipe for utter disaster.

VaguelyAware · 07/03/2018 16:41

I can't see it on iplayer - has it been removed?

loveyouradvice · 07/03/2018 16:37

I too adored imagining being a boy as I grew up - the freedom, the anything possible.... and now I love being a woman and believe anything is possible, and that we are actually luckier to be less constrained by gender constructs than men....

I am surprised there hasn't been more of a BBC backlash - the pink/blue images were shocking...

It does seem 80-95% outgrow the desire to change sex and its impossible to tell which when young so yes, it terrifies me... while i having huge sympathy for those who do trans late and wished they'd been able to do it earlier (and more successfully) .... but if one cannot know which, it has to be better for all to wait given the impact it has on one's body

OldCrone · 07/03/2018 16:33

Has anyone written to the BBC about this? They are supposed to be impartial, not peddle bad science to children who are too young to know any better. I might have to watch this just so that I can write a complaint (and I don't even have children).

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 07/03/2018 16:31

Yes, I wear literally no make up and spend no time on my appearance really ever. I'm a scientist. But the best experience of my life has been being pregnant and having children. Love breastfeeding too. I like being a woman, but I was never into dolls or dresses.

NoqontroI · 07/03/2018 16:24

I used to dress as a boy and be called by a boy's name when I was a child. Friends and family were happy to accommodate this and didn't make any fuss about it. But I most definitely grew up to be a woman and as an adult I wouldn't want to be a man. Had I been a child these days no doubt I would have been guided down a path that as an adult I most definitely wouldn't have wanted. But it's too late by then.

FencingFightingTorture35 · 07/03/2018 16:18

I'm just watching it now. The thing that horrified me was Leo trying to explain gender and how it's something that you feel on the inside that is separate to how you are on the outside. They had an animation of a conveyor belt with crude pictures representing pink girls and blue boys. They showed pink brains going into the girls and blue brains going into the boys before demonstrating a blue brain going into a pink girl.

I am completely horrified to see the BBC supporting the idea of lady brains and man brains as being separate to your body. Where is the science demonstrating this?

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 07/03/2018 14:49

I am appalled that CBBC has included this in a service that is meant to encompass kids from age 6 up - so many that will not have been taught about sex yet. Without an understanding of sexual reproduction, no-one could possibly decide about whether they want to be a boy or a girl - even if it were possible to change sex. A poster on another thread said you don't know who you're attracted to until after puberty - this is also true and we know that the brain develops through puberty. Putting kids on puberty blockers just because they like hobbies associated with the other sex/gender is child abuse.

LangCleg · 07/03/2018 09:12

OP - the friend of a child (aged 10) also was led to sincerely believe that humans could literally change sex by CBBC. I think there must be many kids around the country who think the same and their parents have no idea.

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