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Women's aid? How to ask for help

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Satorye · 02/03/2018 14:46

I saw their page has few services that might be of help to me but then again I'm not sure how to ask for help or how to address it.
Basically I'm isolated with my 1.5 year old son, in an abusive relationship far from relatives and friends. I have history of sexual abuse and rape(fairly recent history as well)and let's say it hasn't been easy since I got pregnant unplanned and now I can't see how to get out of this situation, having no job or skills... I suppose no one can fix my life for me but I was wondering if there's some way to navigate out of this, even in baby steps.

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Badgerthebodger · 31/05/2018 08:26

Sounds like it’s going well if he’s got somewhere to go, won’t be too much longer and then you’ll be free to live your own life. Take care and stay safe x

Satorye · 29/05/2018 23:58

Thanks @Badgerbodger. Well it's going all right. I'm just waiting for him to move out in two-three weeks(supposedly he already booked a house). Other than that it's same old...I hope you're doing ok too.

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Badgerthebodger · 27/05/2018 23:06

Hi Satorye how are you doing? Hoping that you are safe and moving towards happiness.

Satorye · 05/05/2018 18:50

Thanks. Today I got convinced I was expecting too much. We went out-I let him sleep in the morning(as in didn't ask any help around LO)and we let him get ready in peace, choose where he wants to go. Then we came to town and he was acting whole time as if he's too good to walk next to me, sorta got his nose up in the air and acted as he's model on red carpet or something. Acted totally above me-it was impossible to have easygoing conversation people have on the way. Basically whatever I said or did was wrong and I instantly regretted any move considering how much stress it resulted in. I'm aware I'm bit odd even bit disoriented perhaps but if other mums can have coffee with me and stand me for 2-3 hours surely he could too? Anyway this was the last time I went out with him. My LO and I have better time on our own.

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Badgerthebodger · 04/05/2018 23:57

That all sounds really positive, a huge step towards independence. Stay safe, remember you can leave at any time if you feel unsafe - that’s what women’s aid is there for. Take care, sounds like you’re doing the absolute best for your little one

Angryresister · 04/05/2018 23:19

Sounds as though you are getting stronger nd more able to make a move with support...good luck to you. Hope whatever you decide turns out well

LaSqrrl · 04/05/2018 23:13

Good to hear the progress Satorye, well done.
And yes to everything Quarks said.

QuarksandLeptons · 04/05/2018 21:39

Well done! You have been really productive. It must be really hard but it sounds like you have made lots of decisions & lots of progress.
Please stay safe. If your instincts are fear about your ex at any point, just leave. I know you’ve put in place rules but please do look after yourself in that regard

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Satorye · 04/05/2018 21:32

Hi all, thanks. I have bit of an update.
I've been to last WA meeting this week and I've got some advice.
I've got place to go for advice about debts, applying for housing isn't possible at the moment(I'll apply after working for couple of months from this Summer), I've got app for advice on my immigration status, I got reffered to some place for mums like me(like group or something, think it's called Shine?)and I've proceeded with helping my partner apply for visa.
He's living here because he has nowhere else to go atm, we agreed he'll move out by 15th June and I've set conditions for living here until he does. He hasn't breached any so far.

If he does his stuff will be on the staircase and in worst case we'll ask for emergency accomodation again and see from there.

I think this is pretty much all I can do at the moment, all together. My next worry(along with making his passport ASAP so we have another option)is finding some nursery that offers my LO adjusting through long period of time so that at age 3 he can be fully left alone. I've been at home for two years with him, I can manage another one, don't want to ruin it for him.

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QuarksandLeptons · 24/04/2018 21:05

Really thinking of you and wishing you the strength to go to your appointment.
I have a baby the same age as you. It must be so hard to be minding him and dealing with all of the stress from your ex partner & immigration issues.
Please stay safe and try to have hope. Things will change and get better. There is support for you. Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on with your meeting xFlowers

picklemepopcorn · 23/04/2018 07:32

Stay safe Satorye! One step at a time.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 23/04/2018 07:30
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LaSqrrl · 23/04/2018 01:55

Please keep the appointment Satorye, and tell WA everything that is going on. What you tell them is confidential, and they deal with women with immigration issues often.

Please do not tell your ex anything that you are doing/planning/talking about with others. He will use the information to sabotage your every move. WA will also help you with safety planning, to keep you and the children safe.

Satorye · 22/04/2018 22:41

Yeah I supposse you are right, I just have to put myself together and see my options. I need to get out of my head that we were once"something", I suppose this part always makes it hard for people to focus on making decisions in situations like this. Disappointment is huge..I remember I actually thought I'm in love with him and didn't even care after that for the"deal"I came for. I honestly thought I could live my life with a stranger.

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picklemepopcorn · 22/04/2018 22:18

It would be good to think about all the possibilities, I think. Returning to a different part of your country, or seeing what you would need to do to stay here.

Satorye · 22/04/2018 22:04

Thanks all for responding and reading, sorry I'm quite stressed and can't focus to reply to each of you seperately.

I suppose I'm ok with lock that's already there that you can switch when inside so no key can open it, it makes me feel safe enough since he can't get past the outside door that need passcode. 

WA actually gave me an app for legal advice but it's like in 10 days and I've meeting at WA in few days.

Thanks for new links for legal advice I saved them and are going to try seek advice before meeting, probably will call them tomorrow or even email them tonight if possible.

(Yeah my son was born here but he doesn't get citizenship since neither of us is from UK, he does have some advances for studying here if coming from abroad I think or something not very relevant atm)

I'm trying to make the best decision for all but my"partner"literally said"If you don't want to cooperate I'll find another option, I've got plenty of"as if I'm the one who needs him?...I'm just confused with his ass hole attitude and I can't stand him going around playing victim. I know he'll get people on his side when he tells"the story"without anyone asking me anything. Even when police took him that day when he set fire, he told them something(I can't remember if he told me what)and she told him I'm"playing games"??
I am just wondering what sane person would say that after he set fire inside house where his baby was in next room??
I'm more and more liking the idea of cutting contact with him and managing on my own, even if it means peniless back to my country.

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picklemepopcorn · 22/04/2018 20:18

The timeline suggests UK.

Sweetheart, don't believe anything he says. Go along with what women's aid say. It's ok to have Social services involvement. You need help to keep you safe and recover.

Does anyone know any legal people that can help?
Social workers?

I know there are experienced people on the boards but I can't remember their names to tag them.

picklemepopcorn · 22/04/2018 20:07

Where was your son born, Satorye?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 22/04/2018 19:56

Citizen's Advice: www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/

Free, confidential legal helpline here: www.jcwi.org.uk/about/legal-advice

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 22/04/2018 19:51

What Assassinated said. Citizens Advice Bureau will also advise confidentially on immigration-related issues.

If you can't change the locks, how about a bolt or chain on the door?

Take care Flowers

AssassinatedBeauty · 22/04/2018 19:33

I think you should get some advice about your immigration status from someone who knows what they're talking about and who isn't your ex-partner. Are Women's Aid able to help with this? Or if not you could try Law Centres:

www.lawcentres.org.uk/i-am-looking-for-advice

I hope this all gets sorted out for you soon.

Ofspartacus · 22/04/2018 19:23

Oh I am sorry you are going through this. You should let women's aid involve social services etc. They are there to help you and will assist you in accessing advice and services.

Do not believe a word this man says. He will tell you any lies he can to get you back under his control. You are worth more than this and you deserve to be happy and free from him. Trust women's aid they have helped thousands of women just like you.

Are you sure you are safe in your house? Change the locks if at all possible. Stay safe and look after yourself Thanks

Satorye · 22/04/2018 18:33

Thanks folks. So I've got long update and I'd apprecciate someones advice before I speak to WA further..

 Woman from WA told me to call the police if he comes to property. He hasn't done that but he was trying to play on my pity for him to let him stay over, which I didn't. 

 Instead of changing the lock I will ask neighbours to change password for front door(there's that intercom-thing), hopefully they'll know how to?

If I change the lock I'll have to speak to landlord and my partner's boss is renting it to us since he took lease from that landlord so it's complicated. I lock the door when I'm at home so he can't use key, close the windows at night and when I'm out.

 He also said he'll look for another place for me and our child because he can't afford this apartment since he has to pay for his room/place as well.

Problem: he said if I want to"continue cooperating"with him for visa based on our relationship/family I should make it appear like we're together in front of everyone, including WA in case their notes reach someone.

He wouldn't live here and we wouldn't be in relationship anymore but on paper.

  The reason I'm having second thoughts is because I have better job opportunities here and my family is also abusive, I left home for multiple reasons and I don't want my child to come in contact with A LOT of people in that small town. In general my home country is quite of a hell for raising pro-feminist child(or to simply live there).

 In other words, he never helped me get a job here so after certain period of time I'm here pretty much illegally until I can get normal job in Summer(when restricitons are off). He made it appear I'm self-employed on papers and arranged things but I haven't got NIN yet. 

 I think I will ask WA to let me take a look at notes they took so far(I think you can ask they said?), just so I don't get paranoid further...

Another thing is that I don't want social workers involved again-it's not neccessary, at least not what they could do. I'm taking care of my child the best I can and he's not lacking developementally or in any other way(they have confirmed that last time as well).

I feel that my legal status at some point will come in question in case I would proceed with acceppting their help. I'm just not that savvy to pull it off and I hate lying.



All I have asked from my"partner"is that he finds good abuser programme where they are in contact with me regularly to hear both sides of story and for his treatment to be effective. 

He refused, saying he found something which offers group, 1on1, clinical therapy and so on. And obviously delicate flower as he is he will go only for someone who'll never question him, that is, 1on1 therapy option.

He is denying pretty much almost everything he did, calling me as abusive as he is, putting most blame on me and acting as if I am the one who should be grateful to him for talking to me.

I cannot stand him and I'm torn between risking my childs existention by possibly having to go back to my home country or putting up with his abuse from distance while hanging in the air.

How confidential is WA if they involve child protection and social worker services? I don't have anyone to just tell it like it is...

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Badgerthebodger · 19/04/2018 19:44

Echoing changing the locks. Most locks are reasonably simple to change the barrel yourself, or a handyman would be a reasonably cheap option if you don’t think you could manage it. Lots of videos on YouTube.

Well done for staying strong. Lots of hugs to you and your boy, stay safe

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 19/04/2018 19:01

Look after yourself Satorye. Leaving is the most dangerous time. Definitely change the locks.

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