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Miranda Yardley's contribution to the Woman's Place meeting on Tuesday

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LifelongVaginaOwner · 02/03/2018 12:36

I've always tended toward using 'transwomen' and preferred pronouns - if only out of courtesy. Miranda's points though have really made me reconsider. I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts on this.

mirandayardley.com/en/contribution-discussion-womens-place-uk-meeting-27-february-2018/

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loveyouradvice · 02/03/2018 14:28

yup the more this goes forward the more I think people like Miranda and Peaches Yogourt are our heroes... and much needed!

I hope more transexuals like Miranda will find their voices - they are as under threat as women...

Mxyzptlk · 02/03/2018 14:26

Men should be able to wear dresses and make-up if they want, and still be men. (I usually don't do those things and I'm still a woman, btw)

Miranda Yardley talks a lot of sense.

RedToothBrush · 02/03/2018 14:25

Sorry wrong threD

RedToothBrush · 02/03/2018 14:25

More from steve peers:

PM has swallowed a textbook on customs law. But this sort of detail is unavoidable #roadtobrexit
"Access to markets will be different" in services. Don't remember the Leave campaign saying that either #roadtobrexit
Good points on case for professional mobility and recognition of qualifications - another nod to migration issues #roadtobrexit
Inevitably an argument for financial services - interesting the PM discusses broadcasting in more detail too
waves to Murdoch #roadtobrexit
PM wants ambitious continuation of cooperation in cross border civil litigation. More on that here - t.co/3UElgRGpOE
#roadtobrexit

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LifelongVaginaOwner · 02/03/2018 13:49

I saw a video of some TRAs doorstepping Jordan Peterson and constantly pestering him as to why wouldn't he call them by their pronouns and how would he feel if they called him 'her/she'? He said he'd be fine with that.

I find this really interesting as it highlights the underlying belief of TRAs that the worst thing a male can be is 'womanly'.

TiMs must be women because they absolutely can't be accepted as men.

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vaginafetishist · 02/03/2018 13:16

I like that Miranda said this. I think the time for transwoman and preferred pronouns has gone. It muddies the waters and obscures the fact that we are talking about males and male behaviour.

terfsRus · 02/03/2018 12:49

Ha - keep terfing! Love it.
I don't know any transexuals or TIMs, but on this forum I refer to them as transwomen out of courtesy and compassion as the whole process can't be easy.
I understand what Miranda's saying though. Maybe I'll have to train myself not to be so nice all the time.
I saw a video of some TRAs doorstepping Jordan Peterson and constantly pestering him as to why wouldn't he call them by their pronouns and how would he feel if they called him 'her/she'? He said he'd be fine with that.
If you are so unsure of who you are that you get so upset by 'misgendering', then I suggest you need professional help.

bellasuewow · 02/03/2018 12:40

Good points. Thank you for sharing. ‘Keep terfing’ 😁

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