A New Feminist

Right up there with Arthurian legend for historical accuracy, that is. When was this mythical period in history? Anyone able to give some dates at all?

Sure. You little sea lion, you.

When the gender recognition act was first ratified, it was considered there would be about 5000 people who are affected.

See the history of the GA on Fair Play for Women.

It was designed for men with gender dysphoria. Not for men with autogynephilia.

None of your male lesbians, transwomen are biological women nonsense, gender is your pink/blue brain guff, homosexuality is a personal preference bollocks.

About 37 people a year were diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

As opposed to the 2000 kids a year that are showing up at gender clinics now.

You can argue all day long day that transvestites haven't taken over moment (at the expense of transsexuals and women) but I'd ask you to give me citations for that.

And it would need you to explain why sex offenders account for half of all transwomen in prison.

*Pre transgenderism, your friend would be no problem.

Because it didn't matter.

Transsexuals were, and are, few and far between. So no-one really minded. Because they didn't need to*

Right up there with Arthurian legend for historical accuracy, that is. When was this mythical period in history? Anyone able to give some dates at all?

barrack didnt mention PMT

Chartreuseveil

Pre transgenderism, your friend would be no problem.

Because it didn't matter.

Transsexuals were, and are, few and far between. So no-one really minded. Because they didn't need to.

No-one would have to have analysed an actual ideology. It was just a man with gender dysphoria. Navigating life 'as a woman' to relieve the symptoms.

So compassion, courtesy and kindness would have been risk free and without implication or damage.

All that's changed.

Unfortunately for your friend, his gender dysphoria has been turned into a stick with which to beat women.

It's gone so far that women have become a relentless and bloody target for the ideology.

Is that his fault? No.

Does it mean women can give any quarter? No they can't.

They can understand him. But, unfortunately for your friend, the very reason he presents as female matters now.

A lot.

His reasons could have been ignored before, because they weren't creating any significant damage.

They are now.

Gender is recognised as a hierarchy with women at the bottom. When a man decides it's a cure for his symptoms, he fails to acknowledge that.

By failing to acknowledge it, you are buying into it.

By buying into it, you are perpetuating it.

By expressing an opinion, 'as a woman', your friend is maintaining the damaging fiction that being a woman is a set of gender stereotypes.

If he passes, he will, of course have some sexism directed towards him.

But none of it will be biology based.

And most of women's sex based protections will never apply to him.

He will have his own unique set of needs. Which don't apply to women.

So in answer to your question.

Do we understand your friend? Yes.

Can he speak for women? No.

I'm sure he's a perfectly lovely person. It's not about individuals. So it's irrelevant, I'm afraid.

If your colleague is living quietly as a woman, I personally would have no problem. As far as I am concerned it is not his/her fault that the trans agenda has taken this out pf the realms of peaceful cohabitation and into an aggressive political agenda backed with violence. I also find it very sad that your male colleagues were saying such things. Your colleague’s lifestyle is not harming them.

In my opinion he/she may have experienced some sexism if he/she passes for female. I know it isn’t impossible. Some homosexual transwomen in particular can look genuinely feminine. If he/she is married and transitioned early, he/she might well have been considered as someone who might get pregnant. Nobody has ever asked to see my birth certificate at an interview.

Presumably when he/she started using the womens’ toilets, it was not the big issue it is now. It doesn’t sound like he/she endangers anyone by being there, and indeed, other than as hearsay, you have no actual proof he/she is trans at all. It is unfortunate that gossiping men have made this an issue.

There are some trans women involved in the WPUK and I have no problem with that at all.

Whether someone has the shared experience of PMT doesn’t come into it for me

Never heard anyone say it came into it for them either.

I don't think it is about individuals. It has been so for years transsexual women like your friend have been accepted socially as women and treated as women. I don't think any chanfes to gender law will make any difference to her, whether or not self ID is implemented into law.

I can only speak for me... It's a very complex multi-layered debate which is why this should be debated openly and free from judgement.

I have no issues with anyone wanting to live as the opposite sex or non binary or whatever. At the end of the day who wouldn't respect someone who just wants to get on with their life and not bother anybody? I feel a bit sorry for people like your friend. They have gone to great efforts to treat their gender dysphoria which is why I get annoyed at the movement to scrap what is in place for a simpler system to bypass health professionals and declare yourself man or woman. GD is no laughing matter and personally I don't believe you can be a man trapped in a womans body or vice versa. Those with GD often have other mental health issues, so seeing a doctor and a psychiatrist I feel is essential. Hormones, surgery only help aleviate the burden that is GD but it will never allow you to change sex. I don't think biology should be ignored, there are men, women and a very small number of intersex. The mantra transwomen are women is utterly ridiculous. Asking the rest of us to change the language when more than 99% of us are happy in our bodies is a bit much considering we are already respectful of other people's feelings.

There is also the risk that making it easier to switch genders does invite all sorts of unsavoury characters. Sexual predators have no shame pretending to be something they're not to get access to what they seek and I think changes in the GRA will make it easier for the dishonest types. And in your friend's interests, these types can give trans people a bad name and tarnish their reputation. Is it not better for everyone to suss out who is genuine and who poses a threat? Self ID removes this barrier.

I also have an issue with the trans agenda being pushed. Growing up is hard enough especially now where it feels as though young people are very self image orientated thanks to social media. Questioning their gender feels a bit much considering it shouldn't be much of anything. More labels!! I don't think trans charities should be at the forefront advising doctors and politicians and also in schools!! It's a mental health condition and should be treated as such as well as with respect and dignity.

Good luck

If transwomen respected women they would accept when we differentiate ourselves from them.

This is the crux of it for me.

How do you know your colleague is a transwoman if it is never spoken of and they pass?

Your colleague would have nothing in common with me or many women I know, would have benefited from growing up as a boy and being perceived as such by all.
They won't have suffered ANY of the biological issues that are unique to women.
There will be no menstrual issues requiring toilet facilities and sanpro accommodations.
They won't suffer maternity discrimination.
Noone will pass them over for a job thinking they might get pregnant inconveniently
They'll never need to beg for breastfeeding breaks.
You say they have experienced sexism, but this isn't true, as they are categorically not the female sex.

You are free to see them as you wish, as I would be free to do so if I knew them.
I would see them as a man, and I would object to being forced to share intimate female segregated space with them. I would support their right to their own private, discreet space, and I would support their right to not face discrimination. It is not discrimination for a male person to be refused by others in being treated as a female person.

A woman is simply the female of the human species. Anything you layer on top of that is a stereotype.

Your friend may not be as actively harmful or woman-hating as Bergdorf. But they are contributing, in their own way, to an environment that demonises women for saying "excuse us, but we are not the same as you".

If transwomen respected women they would accept when we differentiate ourselves from them.

His rights have superceded the rights of everyone at your workplace who is actually female. This isn't a benign thing.

Feminism isn't a thought police.
Transsexuals are generally more than welcome in feminism and women's spaces.

The Transgender thing has only dominated feminism discourse since Transgenderism got latched onto by AGPs and mouthy teenagers having an identity crisis. These people appear under the Trans umbrella far more frequently than genuine transsexuals (Old skool transsexuals). Most OSTs are quietly getting on in life, not demanding laws are rewritten and women's spaces are invaded by people who make no attempt to "pass" nor think they should have to.

Within the trans own community your colleague would be called "Truscum" and not respected.

Yes your colleague quite probably does experience sexism the same as women if they pass as much as you say.