TIM rights to sex with lesbians

I'm just watching an old 'how I met your mother' and there was a 'joke' in it about barney pretending to be a lesbian to pull one. I fail to see the difference.

Wouldnt be allowed now. Remember when Eddie izzard used to joke that he was a male lesbian and everyone laughed? Now it seems he actually believes it. It's astounding how quickly this ideology has taken hold.

Funny how once the T became "Transgender" instead of Transsexual, it took about five minutes to stop worrying about actual discrimination (eg. In housing and employment,) to obsess about getting into 1.Wherever girls/womens are in a state of undress, and 2. Lesbians' beds.

You'd think that'd wake most "allies" up to what T is about these days

"What is terrifying is the "risk assessments" done by Scottish Women's aid etc have been blinkered to this and have assumed that the proportion of TIM is tiny with no concept of AGPs"

Do you think these TIMs will be part of any survey or study? Of course not. Drive the agenda but when someone gooey eyed SJW comes along send the people with the real mental problems.

I'm just watching an old 'how I met your mother' and there was a 'joke' in it about barney pretending to be a lesbian to pull one. I fail to see the difference.

Dana Beyers is not the only one. Julia Serrano has written about this too. When people say that the Cotton Ceiling thing is made up to discredit TIMs, it's simply not true.

The assumption underlying the idea that lesbians should accept dick is that female sexual attraction or pleasure is simply irrelevant to male entitlement to sex.

If we renamed liver, which I hate the smell and taste and texture of, and called it deliciouswondermeat instead, and you put a plate of it in front of me, I still wouldn't want to eat it, because it's not the label that I find unappealing

Exactly this ^

I'm happy calling people by their preferred pronouns and acknowledging the gender they feel they are, and when I've been hit on by transwomen, I've politely declined (in the way I would with anyone I wasn't attracted to).

If someone were getting aggressive or pushy about sex, that would be a turn-off in itself so it wouldn't be happening anyway.

I don't feel threatened by someone drawing a Venn diagram that purports to be about me. People can obviously say what they like but this doesn't change what happens (or doesn't happen) in my bed.

Thing is, let's say that we pretended that trans women were actually women in some metaphysical sense. So what? Lesbians still wouldn't be attracted to them, and we know this because lesbians aren't attracted to them. Attraction is physical. If we renamed liver, which I hate the smell and taste and texture of, and called it deliciouswondermeat instead, and you put a plate of it in front of me, I still wouldn't want to eat it, because it's not the label that I find unappealing, it's the smell, taste, and texture.

GRA should be reformed. But the opposite way. Nobody convicted of sex offences or DV offences to be allowed one, ever. To get one should require a comprehensive psychiatric assessment to check risk to others - no narcs allowed.

If we have to have it, definitely this.

Seriously, I know it’s late at night, I’m up with an insomniac baby but have I honestly read that just right, that according to Dana Beyer - ‘scientific ignorance’ is not believing that men are women?

Maybe I’m getting all confuddled, what with having ladybrain n’all

A large number of non-trans lesbians — those who’ve come of age in a world colored by second-wave feminism and enveloped in scientific ignorance — simply do not accept that trans women are women or that trans men are men.

Scientific ignorance? That’s an oxymoron if ever there was one. Damned science, peddling their errr facts.

For the AGPs it is a con game and they don't care.
For some though I think that once they abracadabra themselves into believing they are women because they have always like sparkle pony so their dick must be a girl dick it probably is not that much more difficult to imaginary themselves into transbians. For them it is a faith based belief system that they are entirely committed to and looking for recruits or children to groom.

Apparently lesbians are meant to be exclusively attracted to long hair and makeup, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so offensive.

LangCleg I agree with everything you say.

I've found the whole trans thing worrying for quite a while and it's made me angry. This stuff, I find genuinely distressing. It's ok to say no to someone. It's ok to say no to a whole group of people based on their genitalia. That's what sexuality is!

In addition to the clash of beliefs and values I don't want to have sex with trans women because I've never met one who I was attracted to. And I'm bisexual, so in theory I can be attracted to people of either sex. For lesbians there is approximately 0% chance of them being attracted to a male person and wanting to touch his penis.

2+2=5 is what these men are telling us and because we have learned both the easy way and the hard way to appease men they have been able to convince the general public that women do not object.

I had one boyfriend who wanted me to spank him while scolding him in a stern voice. Couldn't stop laughing. Oh, the tragic wilting that results...

It became apparent very quickly in my earliest days at a sex life that I could not do any kind of role play. Fell about laughing and wilted the penis. Every. Single. Time.

So, since transgenderism is all about performance, I can most definitely say that I will not be having sex with a TIM.