"Transgender downhill racer wins first race by nearly 13 seconds"

I seriously don't get how this is being allowed! Say a female Olympic gymnast with a slim body and a flat chest gets bum and boob implants because of the immense pressure on women to resemble Kim Kardashian. Say that the surgery affects her performance a bit because it alters the shape and dynamics of her body. Does she then get to select a category from the paralympics to elbow her way into?

I have posted this before but it is worth repeating.

Margot James MP, who recently re-tweeted a Janice Turner article, is the current Minister of State and the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport.

If you are concerned about girls and women having to compete against (lets be honest) men in those sports traditionally separated by sex for reasons of safety and fairness, please contact her wth your concerns. margotjames.com

Now I am far from a conservative but this guy has it exactly right: "if you want to transition to a boy, great, but maybe you have to give up some things, that you can't have everything".

Trans want everything. Their narcissism dictates it.

Transgender female to male who takes steroids and testosterone wins his 2nd female (girls) wrestling competition, it's just WRONG

link to YouTube vid

thebewilderness

and business, don't forget that one

boards can be gender balanced with 100% dicks now

bet they'd be allowed along to the presidents dinner

and not as staff

Blatant cheating really. Why can athletes not be drug cheats then and use performance enhancing drugs?

There are some very openly GC women on there too. Of course they'll be the ones to feel the TRA backlash.
I noticed the thread's on Twitter too - not so many comments though: twitter.com/mbrmagazine/status/968526216260149248

The debate on the Facebook page is at least open and the more open debate (involving men) the better to bring this into the mainstream.

Men never wanted to share politics or sports with women. The overwhelming hatred men bring to discussions of women in sports or politics make this obvious.
Transgender advocacy has provided an opportunity to drive women out of both sports and politics.

This is the hill I will die on. This is nothing more than cheating, in the most cynical manipulative way and if left unchecked it will seriously harm women's sports.

This makes me SO mad. I've done competitive sports all my adult life, and had to fight against expectations of what women can and should do, and we only JUST started to get somewhere with that, and now this comes along and shits all over it. How can these people look at themself in the mirror and not see a cheat? Pathetic.

I saw this the other day as I'm a mountain biker. There's a good debate going (by female mountain bikers) on the MtbChix&trails Facebook group. For the record, downhill mountain biking is absolutely dependent on strength, particularly upper body.

It's interesting, too, that most of the people on the facebook comments section think he's had bottom surgery

'Bottom surgery' and back to competitive mountain biking within 3 weeks is pretty impressive. . Less competition though

It's lovely to see so many men on there making the same comments that we are on here

The IOC rules are complete nonsense and driven politically, not scientifically. Fuck every single person that thinks it's ok for biological males to compete against biological women. It's completely against the ethos of sports and fairness.

How terribly brave and stunning.

It's interesting, too, that most of the people on the facebook comments section think he's had bottom surgery.

How much more frothy would they be if they realised that, generally, transwomen still retain their full anatomy.

There is another thread on this case which is worth a read

I pointed out that if you look at last year's results for the same event Anton Weatherly finished 34th in the men's race but was still 10 seconds faster than the women's winner.

It's a great way to win, isn't it? And it's not cheating at all, sports bodies everywhere are just happily going along with "man says he is woman, let him complete in women's events".

Laurel Hubbard is competing in the Commonwealth Games ffs.

Oops. Bold fail!

*You're missing the point, Paul:

"Gender," as opposed to biological sex, is just a collection of dangerous sex stereotypes--ones that women, for example, once fought long and hard to disavow. As such, "transgender" is really just the rejection of one such stereotype (which is good) and the adoption of another such stereotype (which is not so good).

People should never encourage sex stereotypes. Rather, they should encourage every person to be more precisely who he or she is as an individual, without reference to external cultural impositions, including alleged "gender" and "transgender" stereotypes.*

Copied directly from one of the pages. Hallelujah, a man gets it.......

All the men on that thread are TERFS.

Here's an article looking at some of the physiological differences between male and female cyclists.

www.cyclingweekly.com/fitness/cycling-and-gender-how-and-why-male-and-female-cyclists-need-to-train-differently-344365

It looks pretty clear that, even though a woman might beat a man long distance, in a sport like this a man has a clear advantage in a number of ways.

It's ridiculous.

I have posted a comment about men winning races by cheating.
I've gone 5* general no holds barred TERF since last night.

(Waves at Terry!)

Tbf, maybe not the best idea anyway, as whilst there are a significant number of sensible gender critical posters, there are also a hardcore of actual transphobes lurking there too, not sure we want them over here!!

Terfy not Terry ffs!