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Munroe Bergdorf for Grazia "Women Are Getting Feminism Wrong.

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 21:28

graziadaily.co.uk/life/opinion/munroe-bergdorf-women-getting-feminism-wrong/

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 23:22

"Loreal has been committed to no animal testing since 1989"

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hipsterfun · 27/02/2018 23:22

I for one had no idea women’s faces were supposed to be luminous as the super moon. Munroe helped, um, highlight my lack of awareness.

Though now Munroe seems to have gone for a very matte look.

(Disclaimer: Cosmetics are not my thing.)

What’s up with the flasher mac?

Bejazzled · 27/02/2018 23:17

tut, advise.
and link

Note it was on BBC Newsbeat which is aimed at young people

Bejazzled · 27/02/2018 23:15
Hmm Appointed to advice Labour's Dawn Butler. Just excellent.
Munroe Bergdorf for Grazia "Women Are Getting Feminism Wrong.
ChardonnaysPrettySister · 27/02/2018 23:10

I’ve been doing all this being a woman business all wrong all my life, it would appear.

Thank you, Munroe, for setting me right.

cista · 27/02/2018 23:07

Also, L'Oréal test on animals, so please don't but their products! Sad

cista · 27/02/2018 23:07

Munroe's opinions on women are disgusting, but at least she hangs around to partly-debate them. She doesn't plop n block, like most of the others.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/02/2018 23:06

Lass i use their Elvive Colour Protect shampoo. And their lippies are great too

Thanks !

lucydogz · 27/02/2018 23:05

did anyone see that Munroe has been appointed as an advisor on Labour's LGBT panel. Dawn Butler is thrilled apparently (yet one more reason not to vote Labour)?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 27/02/2018 22:59

*Munroe

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 27/02/2018 22:58

I believe that racism isn't always conscious and that yes, society does unconsciously centre and prioritise whiteness, which leads to unconscious bias and ultimately racism

Well yes, I agree with this.

But also:

I believe that misogyny isn't always conscious and that yes, society does unconsciously centre and prioritise men, which leads to unconscious bias and ultimately misogyny.

Check your own privilege, Monroe

hipsterfun · 27/02/2018 22:45

Sorry, it’s clarifying to avoid further confusion, not back-pedalling Grin

I dont think the problem was that people were confused, much as Munroe may wish it so.

hipsterfun · 27/02/2018 22:40

Don’t sugar coat it, Munroe.

I see Munroe is busy back-pedalling on Twitter this evening.

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 22:38

thankyou tufty + hipster Thanks Thanks

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BlindYeo · 27/02/2018 22:34

From the tweet that got MB sacked:

"Once white people begin to admit their race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on Earth … then we can talk."

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 22:34

From the Press Gazette website.

"Grazia posted circulation figures of 102,859 for the second half of last year (ABC figures), down 16 per cent year-on-year – the third biggest decline across the women’s lifestyle magazine sector over the six-month period.

The title has experienced steady decline since the second-half of 2009 when sales were at a record-high of 229,732."

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hipsterfun · 27/02/2018 22:32

Not wanting to EVER have a child made me so paranoid about becoming pregnant I believe if i had been able to be sterilized when i was younger my love/sex life would have turned out a lot differently.

Based on a different kind of personal experience, I can understand. I’m sorry if things haven’t been what you would’ve hoped.

whywhywhywhywhyyy · 27/02/2018 22:31

I love having a movement by women for women mansplained

CapnHaddock · 27/02/2018 22:30

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McTufty · 27/02/2018 22:29

@helenadove Flowers

That experience based on your biology is no less important or valid than the many other diverse experiences women have with their reproductive systems, and it enrages me when TRAs equate female biology with pregnancy etc (and start coming out with shite like what about infertile women) because it is so much more complex than that.

Thisusernamethingistricky · 27/02/2018 22:27

Grazia has been shit for years.

Thisusernamethingistricky · 27/02/2018 22:26

As someone else said, we are now in a place where having a vagina, uterus, cervix, ovaries etc doesn't make you a woman, but donning a dress, having 'facial feminisation surgery' and simply saying 'I am a woman', does.

troodiedoo · 27/02/2018 22:24

Bye then Grazzia, off you fuck.

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 22:24

"Female biology is a large part of female oppression,"

Im a childfree by choice woman who asked to be sterilised many times from my 20s to early 30s (im 44) i was told i may change my mind, dont know my own mind etc.

Not wanting to EVER have a child made me so paranoid about becoming pregnant I believe if i had been able to be sterilized when i was younger my love/sex life would have turned out a lot differently.

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