Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Invited to talk at the House of Lords

35 replies

Kikashi · 27/02/2018 16:32

Sorry only MSM link I could find:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

Karen Jones killed her boyfriend (when Karen was still a man) and wrapped his body in sheets and a duvet. It went undiscovered for 3 weeks. The body was so decomposed that the cause of death could not be established so Jones was convicted of manslaughter and released after 2 and half years in prison. A big part of her defense was that she was confused and distressed by her sexuality and gender (thus leading you to kill - as you do). Shortly after release Jones went to a trans clothes shop and took the shop assistant hostage, stuck a lemon in her mouth and violently assaulted her and tried to rape her. Jones only stopped when she failed to become aroused with her "female penis". Jones claimed she was driven to commit the crime to be put back in prison in order to get the gender reassignment surgery she needed. She was given an indeterminate sentence but was released after several years.

Jones has now been invited to talk to the House of Lords about how life can be made easier and better for transgender prisoners. Apparently the peer who invited her believes Jones debt to society has been paid. Words fail.

OP posts:
MyBrilliantDisguise · 27/02/2018 16:50

Five days after being released early on licence in 2002, Jones brutally assaulted a female shop assistant after gagging her mouth with a lemon and trying to rape her. She was sentenced to life in prison.

She said the attack was as a cry for help so that she could go back to prison and have the sex change operation she had needed all her life.

That is just the biggest load of crap. If this person wanted to return to prison they could've done any number of things that wouldn't have hurt anyone. And to hurt someone in such a way - that shows they have no concept of what it's like to be a woman.

And why the hell should it be easier to get a sex change in prison? Is that actually the case? It's hard to believe!

TERFousBreakdown · 27/02/2018 16:47

WTAF?

This individual committed a crime ON PURPOSE and with the explicit goal of getting gender reassignment surgery and parliament is rewarding this by hearing them?

Way to incentivise, dear Lords!

MyBrilliantDisguise · 27/02/2018 16:43

So this person murdered one man and raped a woman but is now going to the House of Lords (which has to be considered an honour) to talk about how the life of trans-sexuals in prison can be improved?

How can he identify as a woman yet rape a woman? Surely to identify as a woman you'd know that rape was one of the worst things that could happen to you?

Thinking about it, how transwomen aren't vigilantes, beating the fuck out of rapists everywhere?

ajandjjmum · 27/02/2018 16:42

The whole world has gone mad.

BiologyMatters · 27/02/2018 16:38

What the fucking fuck?

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 27/02/2018 16:38

What is it that we can see and they can not/will not?

IAmALionTamer · 27/02/2018 16:38

I’ve just read about this on Twitter & came straight to Mumsnet to see if a thread had been started on this.
I’m utterly fucking dismayed at this. Where has common sense gone!!

acornsandnuts · 27/02/2018 16:37

FFS. Hmm

Mywifenow · 27/02/2018 16:37

WtfAngry

Thisusernamethingistricky · 27/02/2018 16:35

Wha?!